DECA VS. EQ (again)

**odrorir** · 01-16-2005, 12:13 PM

I always feel EQ hunger at week 2, and notice hardness at week 3-4...
I think you are too caught up in the long ester, not in feeling what is going on in your body.
Any of those differences you felt could have been 1 of 10000 factors, so not it is not proof one is better for you.

Originally Posted by JoeyJuice

Personally i've used both. I've used eq for 7 monthes a 600mg and saw very slow gains and I will not use EQ again. If your gonna use Eq do atleast 14 weeks because It really kicks in in week 7-8. I saw better gains with Deca for 12 weeks as far as size Use an anti estrogen to keep the water down. Alot of people on this board swear by EQ, You just have to see what works for you body, everybody is different. I'll swear by test and tren. My point is try both but not at the same time thats the only way you'll see what works for you,as far as keeping gains Either one is the same as long as you use anti estrogens with deca so theirs no water bloat and you use proper pct for both. Deca and anavar was a good stack for me also. I would use it with 250mg/500mg of test

**odrorir** · 01-16-2005, 12:19 PM

I guess we shouldn't even mention receptor upregulation, because they didn't mention it...

Originally Posted by big k.l.g

STFU! Chris! Pros and the dudes at Biotest said they bind to the same receptors! That's all that matters!

**Moosepellet** · 01-16-2005, 12:24 PM

I agree with b.l.g king,

Big Lex you have a lot to learn if you think that deca /eq shouldn't be run together or bind to the same receptors. Not true at all, different AAS, different recepters. Trust me I gave my soon to be brother in-law Deca/EQ stack, he loves it, matter of fact he called me today to say that he want more. His bench went up 110lbs in 10wks and he is only taking 300mg Deca/300mg EQ. So stop with you bitchin and moaning "Big Lex" you don't know Sh!t.

***BajanBastard*** · 01-16-2005, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by odrorir

I guess we shouldn't even mention receptor upregulation, because they didn't mention it...

Receptor upregulation? STFU! A.Rs get clogged up. A knowledgable man like you should know this!

**Big_Lex** · 01-16-2005, 05:29 PM

ok ive done research on AR upregulation and downregulation i was wrong for some reason i thought testostorones bind to a diff receptor. apolgy to KIG i stand corrected.
Still wouldnt choose deca /EQ for a course but thats my opinion.

Moosepellet - idiot, grow up thats all i can say to you.

***BajanBastard*** · 01-16-2005, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by Big_Lex

ok ive done research on AR upregulation and downregulation i was wrong for some reason i thought testostorones bind to a diff receptor. apolgy to KIG i stand corrected.
Still wouldnt choose deca /EQ for a course but thats my opinion.

Moosepellet - idiot, grow up thats all i can say to you.

I would also like to apologize to you for jumping on your ass. It's a bad habit.

You are now my internet bitch

**JoeyJuice** · 01-16-2005, 06:51 PM

I would now like to provide a quote from abbas Katami (mr california) doing a deca /eq cycle is like doing a cycle with two differnt brands of Gh and stacking them

***BajanBastard*** · 01-16-2005, 06:58 PM

lol You trying to fack up the apple cart?

**Jackman** · 01-16-2005, 08:19 PM

when i said explain i meant so they will know! big klg knows his **** and i know he is right on this and i cant WAIT for him to prove your homo erotic ass wrong!

Originally Posted by Big_Lex

arent you the one who posted "total crap" " you dont know sh!t" etc. etc. arent you the one whos supposed to bring out some info. why you need to insult? what are you 16? didnt jackman say earlier "explain to people". Muscular D has sh!t writers? hehe
i will post my pics i said that a few times in my threads at the end of the cycle and after the PCT but not cause you asked for them.

**Reciever84** · 01-16-2005, 08:32 PM

WOW! Some of you guys have highjacked the he-l out of my thread. Thanks!

**Smart@$$** · 01-16-2005, 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by JoeyJuice

I would now like to provide a quote from abbas Katami (mr california) doing a deca/eq cycle is like doing a cycle with two differnt brands of Gh and stacking them

EQ is test based, and DECA is 19nor so how can it be the same thing? One is good at raising red blood cell count and stimulating appetite as well as being a decent anabolic , the other is better with nitrogen and utilizing protein as well as lubing the joints and is a great anabolic. It is not like saying I will take brand A test cyp and stack it with brand B test cyp!?!?!

**Smart@$$** · 01-16-2005, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by Reciever84

WOW! Some of you guys have highjacked the he-l out of my thread. Thanks!

The above post should answer your question.

**03636** · 01-16-2005, 08:54 PM

I suggest you try doing a search next time, you would probly have better results. People get so emotional over this topic for some reason. Somebody's ear is gonna get bit.

**Duckhombre** · 01-16-2005, 09:11 PM

I think the short answer here is that there isn't different "types" of androgen receptors, just plain ol angrogen receptors. Certain hormones have a higher affinity for the adrogen receptor, and the higher affinity, the more androgenic it is deemed. I really hope this is true because this is what I learned. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

***BajanBastard*** · 01-16-2005, 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by Duckhombre

I think the short answer here is that there isn't different "types" of androgen receptors, just plain ol angrogen receptors. Certain hormones have a higher affinity for the adrogen receptor, and the higher affinity, the more androgenic it is deemed. I really hope this is true because this is what I learned. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Well not really. Methandrostenolone (dianabol ) is quite androgenic but it does not have a high binding affinity for the A.R.

I explain this somewhat in my trenbolone acetate profile.