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01-19-2005, 02:26 PM #1
The TRUTH Behind Why Dbol-Only Cycles Are Popular...
There was a thread posted about Dbol only cycles. I've seen many of these threads come and go, so I'm gonna just break it down for those who don't know.
Do you want to know why Dbol only cycles are so popular? It's a dealers dream come true.
When you think about what Dbol does and how it works, it begins to make sense in a business aspect.
You have a product that regardless of what you do, produces results....you don't even have to work out and can eat as much junk as you want and you'll STILL see the scale go up. Your muscles will bloat, your clothes will begin to get tight and you'll be come noticeably stronger within days. It's common for guys to shoot up 15-20lbs in 4-6 weeks on Dbol. Think of the ego trip....
But, as soon as you come off, say goodbye to all that water you were carrying. It comes off twice as fast as it goes on.
So you have a product that:
1) Is expensive per capita (with a possibility of a high profit for the dealer)
2) Produces results regardless of what you do
3) Works quick
4) Is oral (no needles to inject)
5) Has no real "keep gains" offshooting in a mental turmoil once you come off
6) Will undoubtly have repeat buyers
You appeal to a whole new market as a dealer in a local gym to punk kids who just want to get "huge". So when I read guys posting up about "DBOL ONLY CYCLES", you've most likely gotten the idea from a "guy in the gym who said he can get it for you".
Womp womp, you're being suckered. It's a business, in the end, no one cares who big YOU get as long as their getting richer. Sorry to break it to you.
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01-19-2005, 02:30 PM #2
Good insight, I totally agree…
sticky...?
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01-19-2005, 02:32 PM #3Anabolic Member
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oh i've been saying the same thing to people in the gym for years about your theory
i'll buy that post for a dollar RONNY. good post and 100% true
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01-19-2005, 02:33 PM #4
NYC, haven't seen you around in awhile. Where you been hiding?
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01-19-2005, 02:34 PM #5Banned
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Your forget the biggest reason why I think these dbol only cycles are popular....fear of needles.
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01-19-2005, 02:35 PM #6
Agree 100%
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01-19-2005, 02:35 PM #7Anabolic Member
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long story
Originally Posted by RoNNy THe BuLL
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01-19-2005, 02:36 PM #8
Good to see you're getting back on track. How's the whole fitness modelling thing going for you.
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01-19-2005, 02:37 PM #9Originally Posted by toolman
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01-19-2005, 02:41 PM #10
dealers dream = selling strips of halo for $30
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01-19-2005, 02:47 PM #11
Nice point, Never looked through the dealers(not a friend) eyes.
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01-19-2005, 02:47 PM #12
great post, dbol only cycles piss me off!
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01-19-2005, 02:55 PM #13Originally Posted by toolman
The fear of needles is right up there too.
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01-19-2005, 02:56 PM #14
Yep have to agree.
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01-19-2005, 03:18 PM #15
agree completly dbol is a rip off, won't touch the stuff, allot of sides too.
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01-19-2005, 03:29 PM #16Originally Posted by hawkeye1877
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01-19-2005, 03:51 PM #176) Will undoubtly have repeat buyers
if users lost all of their gains after cycle... why would they buy again ?
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01-19-2005, 03:54 PM #18
lets keep bumping this to the top so guys will read it b4 they ask!
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01-19-2005, 03:58 PM #19Originally Posted by J-F
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01-19-2005, 04:07 PM #20
Excellent point! Also, most gym dealers are their customers only source of information. The D-Bol only cycle customer doesn't even know he like a hamster on a wheel. Information is the key. I feel lucky to be included in the AR community. We really benefit from all the great posts here.
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01-19-2005, 04:09 PM #21Originally Posted by JdJuicer
lol
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01-19-2005, 04:20 PM #22
Why is it that Dbol is so popular with the uneducated anyway? I mean why gain 15lbs of water with Dbol when you could gain 25lbs with Anadrol same price anywhere I've seen for a comparable dose and duration, gym dealers have a huge untapped market for idiots just sitting right in front of them waiting to be exploited
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01-19-2005, 04:28 PM #23Associate Member
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Originally Posted by J-F
Totally agree
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01-19-2005, 04:32 PM #24Originally Posted by hawkeye1877
i have to disagree here bro. i know d/boll only cycle's are fcuked up but i do like d/boll a lot s*it i love front loading with the stuff
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01-19-2005, 04:37 PM #25Associate Member
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Originally Posted by hawkeye1877
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01-19-2005, 04:37 PM #26Originally Posted by stocky121
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01-19-2005, 04:42 PM #27Originally Posted by hawkeye1877
1) its cheap compared to the results u obtain (if dont correctly i mean with test included)
2) also there is not a lot of sides if you run the correct dose and take neccasary precautions
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01-19-2005, 04:49 PM #28VET Retired
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1: Clin Sci (Lond). 1981 Apr;60(4):457-61. Related Articles, Links
Effects of methandienone on the performance and body composition of men undergoing athletic training.
Hervey GR, Knibbs AV, Burkinshaw L, Morgan DB, Jones PR, Chettle DR, Vartsky D.
1. In a previous study of the effects of methandienone (Dianabol ) on men undergoing athletic training, strength and performance increased, but not significantly more when the subjects were taking the drug than when they were taking placebo. The subjects did, however, gain more weight on the drug, with increases in total body potassium and muscle dimensions. It remained an open question whether the muscles had gained normal tissue or intracellular fluid. 2. In an attempt to distinguish between these possibilities the trial has been repeated, using as subjects seven male weight-lifters in regular training, and including measurements of total body nitrogen. As before, a dose of 100 mg of methandienone/day was given alternately with the placebo in a double-blind crossover experiment. The treatment periods lasted 6 weeks and were separated by an interval of 6 weeks. Body weight, potassium and nitrogen, muscle size, and leg performance and strength increased significantly during training on the drug, but not during the placebo period. 3. The finding of increased body nitrogen suggested that the weight gain was not only intracellular fluid. The increases in body potassium (436 +/- SEM 41 mmol) and nitrogen (255 +/- 69 g) were too large in proportion to the weight gain (2.3 +/- 0.4 kg) for this to be attributed to gain of normal muscle or other lean tissue, and imply gain of nitrogen-rich, phosphate-poor substance. Although this action of methandienone might be described as anabolic, the weight gain produced is not normal muscle.
Publication Types:
Clinical Trial
Randomized Controlled Trial
PMID: 7018798 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
The reason d-bol needs to be stacked.
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01-19-2005, 04:50 PM #29Originally Posted by bigswiftos
3. its good for a jump
4. its good for a bridge
makes me feel good, good workouts......thats all its good for.....gains go away too quickly, but that's not the reason i run it
i'd venture to say many who have commented on this thread have never had good dbol , or have run it correctly
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01-19-2005, 04:52 PM #30
Dbol , IMO, will forever be an ego drug. No use to it whatsover, as BIG KLG nicely demonstrated with his article.
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01-19-2005, 04:56 PM #31Originally Posted by RoNNy THe BuLL
it hurts my ego, i dont enjoy looking like an oily bag of water...
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01-19-2005, 05:08 PM #32Associate Member
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Originally Posted by asymmetrical1
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01-19-2005, 10:58 PM #33Originally Posted by Ultimate
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01-19-2005, 11:09 PM #34
I love D-bol because it's the best **** to frontload a nice bulking cycle, however what I DO NOT LOVE is the terrible lower back pains that come along with it.
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01-19-2005, 11:29 PM #35
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01-19-2005, 11:36 PM #36
This is what I have allways thought. SOme guy in the gym has a bottle of Deca or some extra Dbol lying around and sells the stuff like it will do this and that and get a couple hundred bucks out of the deal.
Ronny the bull is right most of the time with alot of these posts it comes up that this Deca bottle or Dbols is all they can get.
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01-19-2005, 11:49 PM #37Originally Posted by LACBodybuilder
The most common problem with running Deca alone is "Deca Dick". Often, impotence will occur and you just have a hard time (no pun intended) getting the bazooka to fire.
Although many people run a Deca only cycle as their first and report good, solid gains in LBM, ending with Dbol will absolutely RUIN them mentally. I'll explain further....
BUT, your buddies cycle is just plain stupid.
The Deca won't fully "kick" in until week 4 or 5 when it completely saturates your bloodstream. So right when it's 'go-time', your buddy is gonna cut it off. He'll still feel the effects of the Deca for a good 3 weeks after his last injection, but it will taper off on it's own. So he pretty much has only utilized 3-4 weeks of his Deca cycle (that's being generous). That's a complete waste in my opinion. Not only waste of time, but waste of money.
Here comes the stupid part. So after he's done with his 6 week cycle of Deca, he's gonna run Dbol for 5 weeks? This is what's going to happen. your buddy will gain 10lbs MAX of his 6 week cycle of Deca. He's gonna stop and start the Dbol. 5 weeks? I'll give him 15-20lbs. Right. So there we go. 25-30lbs within 10 weeks, awesome right? Wrong.
Let's fast forward, he stops his Dbol a few weeks after the Anabolic effects of the Deca are long gone....whoops, there goes 20lbs of water. Whoops, there goes another 5lbs of LBM from his recovery time. So he took 12 weeks to put on 30lbs and loses 25 of them within 4.
That's why I said Dbol is great for business. He'll blow up and deflate before your eyes.
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01-19-2005, 11:53 PM #38Originally Posted by Ultimate
Once you've tried several compounds, you quickly learn the difference between quality and quantity as well as cost.
I've ran many drugs in the past, dbol being one of them, and I'll be the first to say that for the money I spent on the dbol, I would've put on, and kept, more weight buying another bottle of Test, hell, even Fina.
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01-20-2005, 01:16 AM #39
I dont like dbol for quick water retention. I like it because of the attitude it gives me. Its not quite like test and not as hostile as Halotestin . But for me I have good experiances from taking it.
Im trying to figure out if low doses of Dbol will yeild the same improoved mood benifit. I ussually took it at a 50mg dose.
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01-20-2005, 01:20 AM #40
Don't waste your money for a good mood.
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