Thread: Crohns and cycles...
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02-21-2005, 09:48 AM #1New Member
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Crohns and cycles...
anyone have experience, having Crohns disease and doing cycles and nutritional advice for Crohns?
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02-21-2005, 09:56 AM #2
I know you might not want to but you really need to consult with your doc. Its really important to me to be big but life itself is priceless.
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02-21-2005, 09:59 AM #3New Member
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life is priceless, so love thy body...I wouldn't do anything if I knew it would absolutely kill me, but you never know when your gonna go, so life is priceless, but also unpredictable, my Doc would shoot me if I told her I was juicin-so I won't be doing that.
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02-21-2005, 10:04 AM #4
Be careful bro. I dont know anything about the disease. I would hate to hear of something bad happening. Ask another doc. that specializes in the diesase if your not comfortable talking to yours.
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02-21-2005, 10:08 AM #5Junior Member
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Well I highly doubt that your doc will go to that extreme but you have to remember that your doc is there to help you. Granted he will be against you juiceing but they will also give you descent advise and tell you the real sides you could be faceing. Donty forget that your history is confidential so no one else would really know aside from the doctor unless you mention it.
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02-21-2005, 10:10 AM #6New Member
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good advice, but what doctor is going to consult on using juice. I think I'll be fine since I've done cycles in the past with no harm, or really any bad side effects, I actually feel alot better when doing them, like anyone else I guess.
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02-21-2005, 12:21 PM #7
GH has shown itself to be very beneficial in treating people with crohn's. you may want to talk that over with your Dr.
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02-21-2005, 01:53 PM #8Originally Posted by Dude-Man
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02-22-2005, 05:45 PM #9New Member
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Crohns is under control right now, I'm on Pentaza for maintenance, I can't seem to get over 170 pds and I'm 5'10".
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02-22-2005, 06:18 PM #10
hey bro, i have Ulcerative colitis which is very similar to Crohn's and symptoms are the same. anyway i have just recently completed a cycle of Deca and test e and i had no problems at all, no flare ups or anything. so i'd say as long as u have in under control right now then u'd prolly b good to go
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02-22-2005, 06:36 PM #11Anabolic Member
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I have a good buddy that has Crohn's and he is skinny and goes to the bathroom all the time. I think you could get a script for both HGH & some form of aas.
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02-22-2005, 10:03 PM #12Originally Posted by littlemac
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02-22-2005, 11:23 PM #13
look up my previous post on this. It is very informative.
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02-23-2005, 08:11 AM #14New Member
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If my Crohn's is under control and mild, then why would my doc put me on HGH? I'm going to try and revamp my training and eat like its my job. mesomorphyl-sounds like your disease is worse than mine right now, that sucks, what are you doing for training and diet?
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02-23-2005, 08:22 AM #15Originally Posted by littlemac
tallyjuice post that link, please.
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10-19-2006, 03:24 PM #16New Member
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I came to this sight just looking up how steriods of any type would effect my crohns and have found it much more helpful then any other site. I know that no 2 crohns patients are the same, but what type of diet do you find work best? I cant seem to pattern anything that bothers me but i cant get rid of these fistulas. I know even slight quantites of red meat bind me up, but have yet to put a finger on the causes of my fistula inflamation.
ps. I tried to PM this to Mesomorphyl but i think because i didnt have any posts it wouldnt let me.
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10-20-2006, 12:39 AM #17
Interesting thread. I do know that Crohns and UC can be flared up due to unusual stresses so even though anti-inflamm aas like Deca may help, others may increase the stress levels (pure speculation) so one must be careful with something like this... even though I can understand the difficulty approaching a physician with this type of a question. I have never heard about HGH being beneficial but will do some research and get back to you on that one.
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10-20-2006, 06:52 AM #18Anabolic Member
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IMO u can try gear.. if it makes things worse then u quit it.. its not very likely though. IIf anythign its more likely that it has a slight positive effect. Gear being immnosuppressant and all.. U are not gonna get a ok from a doc to do this (very anti gear and pointless medication -growing muscles isnt a good cause to use drugs) but I would go ahead anyway.. the HGH is definetly interesting and it was new info for me... Good to know for future...
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10-20-2006, 01:26 PM #19New Member
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A friend of mine has the disease. He has done two cycles so far and takes a lot of alcohol and recreational drugs in the weekends...and the doc says all his profiles are good and the disease is under control...
I think he's ****ing up his body but the tests in the hospital say the opposite..
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10-20-2006, 03:11 PM #20Anabolic Member
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Like I said before its more likely gear will help the situation than make it worse... but this is far from fact since havent seen any studies on that..
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10-20-2006, 11:49 PM #21
I'm still undergoing diagnossis for crohns/colitis/ect... and I have not had any problems yet. My weight changes drastically though, but cycles have not had adverse effects.
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11-04-2006, 07:35 PM #22New Member
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Originally Posted by cfiler
Thanks,
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11-04-2006, 08:43 PM #23
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11-04-2006, 09:29 PM #24Member
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I have mild Crohn's and so does my oldest son who is 22. We both workout full time and found the best Crohn's control is diet, diet and more diet. It's impossible to predict an outbreak, but found it closely follows screwups in diet, or following suppression in immune systems, like following some simple ass illness. I've done 3 cycles and getting ready to start a fourth and my son is thinking of doing his first. Affecting Crohn's is the last thing on our minds, but then we have mild cases. I have a friend whose younger brother has what he calls a more severe case and he has done cycles without complaining that it complicates his Crohn's. But everyone is different.
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11-04-2006, 09:53 PM #25
don't quote me on this at all...but I thought that I may have had crohn's before and I did a lil research many years ago. If I remember correctly AAS could actually be beneficial to crohns...don't quote me but check into it.
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11-05-2006, 02:52 AM #26hey bro, i have Ulcerative colitis which is very similar to Crohn's and symptoms are the same. anyway i have just recently completed a cycle of Deca and test e and i had no problems at all, no flare ups or anything. so i'd say as long as u have in under control right now then u'd prolly b good to go
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11-06-2006, 09:56 AM #27Originally Posted by Newbnumber1
Fistulas are caused by your immune response in your digestive tract. Your body is still attacking bacteria caused by food that is not even there anymore. This response can also cause inflammation, called hydrophormosis. I have found stress can bring these things on as quick as diet.
Instead of red meat you may have to drink high protein ensure on top of regular protein shakes.
Last but not least, get a good gastroenterologist... he or she can help with meds to help control the severity of crohns condition.Last edited by Mesomorphyl; 11-06-2006 at 09:59 AM.
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