no estrogen please

**SJP** · 04-01-2002, 12:24 AM

If anyone could shed some light on this subject for me.

I am looking for something to add some quality mass with my winstrol . I would rather somehting which doesn't turn to estrogen due to fear of gyno, but primo and masteron are impossible for me. Any suggestions? Any experience with Eq?

please help, thanks

**planetx** · 04-01-2002, 12:28 AM

Arimidex .

Why the two compounds mentioned impossible?

**SJP** · 04-01-2002, 12:33 AM

Hair loss, while i understand all steriods can accelerate hair loss, im trying to avoid the ones which have hairloss as their MO. Its something I think I need to watch out for

**nymattyk** · 04-01-2002, 12:33 AM

arimidex is not a steroid , therefore it will not add mass. arimidex is an anti-estrogen which will eliminate water retention which you will not have to worry about with winny. depending on your goals, eq and winny stack well for cutting and the risk of gyno wont be too high

**SJP** · 04-01-2002, 12:43 AM

Thanks, I was leaning towards Eq, but before I do I have a lot of research a head of me. Thanks

Any advise on the Eq?

**nymattyk** · 04-01-2002, 12:45 AM

its good that you are realize you need to research before starting. just look around, there are a lot of posts on an eq/winny stack. as far as advice, do you mean what brand to go with, what dose? be a little more specific with your question

**planetx** · 04-01-2002, 12:54 AM

No matter your final choice of AS for mass; you are looking at a shift in favor of estrogen some point in time. (inevitable) delayed or not?
Testo. ester(s), nanny dec, EQ, methandrostenolone , oxymetholone.......

If you do not want estrogen PERIOD. The only answer is Arimidex .

**SJP** · 04-01-2002, 12:54 AM

What I meant was what kind of results should I look for, I want to make sure they parallel my goals which are: add about 10-15 quality lbs of muscle to shred with winny.

Also, what doseage would help me achieve these goals?
Thanks!

**planetx** · 04-01-2002, 12:59 AM

what you need is:

Virormone propionate 100mg EOD 1-8
primobolan 400mg/wk 1-8
winny 50mg ED 4-8
tren 50-80mg EOD 6 weeks in or last 6??

Arimidex 0.25-.5 daily

**Iwan2bsolid2** · 04-01-2002, 01:12 AM

bro you need to do a little more research, because winny is one of the harshest AS- and hairloss. This is why I wont fuck with Winny.

**SJP** · 04-01-2002, 01:25 AM

Thanks for the heads up. I have read about winny casueing this. It is a risk I am willing to take, however I figured I'd cut my losses by not stacking with primo or masteron .

Just a random question, what exactly does "deca -dick" refer to, loss of sex drive? Can't get it up? This is reversable?