Cycle Opinions

**SoulCard** · 03-24-2005, 07:12 PM

Hey all...my first post here...wanted to hear your feedback about my next cycle...

Week 1-8: Deca 400 MG / week
Week 1-6: Dinabol 25 mg/day

PCT as usual...
Thanks!

**tycin** · 03-24-2005, 07:21 PM

bad idea bro!! u need some test in there! i take it this is ur 1st cycle, wut are ur stats?

i say skip the cycle for now and do some serious research b4 u jump on a cycle.

this is a great 1st cycle:
wks 1-10 test e/cyp 500mg/week
wks 1-4 dbol 30mg/day
wks 1-10 nolva 10mg/ed
14 days after last test e injection pct... clomid: day 1 300mg, days 2-11 100mg/day, days 12-22 50mg/day along with 20mg/nolav/day thruout clomid treatmeant.

**SoulCard** · 03-24-2005, 08:41 PM

stats: 6'0", now 195lbs...been lifting for about 2 years, not my first cycle, Next one was planning on test cycle...done a good amount of research here and other placescan ya gimme some specifics why this cycle is no good?..from what I can tell this should be good and is recommended by some...what am I missin?

**tycin** · 03-24-2005, 08:44 PM

any one who says deca ,dbol cycle is good needs a big fat slap!

u need test as a base on every cycle imo... with out it ur body will shut down ex: loss of libido,depressed etc....

ever hear of deca dick??? i take it u havent.. do a search on it

**longhorn814** · 03-24-2005, 08:55 PM

yes bro, run test in your cycle, every cycle. Deca /dbol is old school and we now know why its adventageous to take test in every cycle. See tycin's posts above

**Thegr8One** · 03-24-2005, 09:01 PM

Week 1-8: Deca 400 MG / week
Week 1-6: Dinabol 25 mg/day

if you run this cycle your penis will stay flacid and that is the dreaded deca dick
TEST will help keep yer lill willie strong
also no test= an emotional roller coaster of suicidal/homicidal and spermicidal proportions

**niXon)(** · 03-24-2005, 09:04 PM

Yea do some research and then come back with a cycle we could critique, not destroy.

**almostgone** · 03-24-2005, 09:08 PM

http://forums.anabolicreview.com/sho...=cycles+newbie

look at the above thread....hope it helps

**BlInDsIdE** · 03-25-2005, 01:19 PM

lol yeah i'd totally drop that cycle and start over thats just a bad idea

**js1201** · 03-25-2005, 01:34 PM

yeh probably would run some test with it cyp seems to be the best for me

**lollipops** · 03-25-2005, 01:34 PM

what is the mg of the dbol you are taking. I would first add at least 500mg of test ent/c per week. Also, you should increase the dbol intake through the first four weeks. Personally I would not run dbol longer that

**XxElitexX** · 03-25-2005, 01:35 PM

test should be the base of every cycle. you need more research.

**lollipops** · 03-25-2005, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by XxElitexX

test should be the base of every cycle. you need more research.

well put!

**SoulCard** · 03-26-2005, 09:23 AM

ok...ive taken my licks and learned...now i have a confession and request...the confession is that I am 4 weeks into this cycle...the question: is it too late to add some test to this cycyle and "salvage" what is left of it?...if so, what specifically and how much?

***G-1000*** · 03-26-2005, 09:26 AM

***G-1000*** · 03-26-2005, 09:33 AM

get your self some test prop start it 100mg eod and run it right up to 3 days befor pct.

**BlInDsIdE** · 03-26-2005, 11:56 AM

yeah I'd have to go with gsxxr on that one

**taiboxa** · 03-26-2005, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by gsxxr

get your self some test prop start it 100mg eod and run it right up to 3 days befor pct.

man i love prop...

**The Baron** · 03-26-2005, 03:08 PM

gsxxr is correct. Get some prop immediately. You can lower the dose once it kicks in good. The prop, shot ED, will kick in nicely within just 3-4 days and you will feel teriffic. You could then lower to 75 or so if you like. Next time, use enanthate or cypionate from the get-go. A good dose for a test-deca cycle for beginner or intermediate users is 500mg test and 400mg deca per week, in two shots. The first 4 weeks you can kickstart if you like. Dianabol is good for that. Some users like anadrol though it has worse sides for most of us. Prop can be used for kickstarting, as well.

The deca will take about 4 weeks or a bit less for enough to leave your system to start pct. So you should continue the prop for maybe 3-1/2 weeks and start your pct 6 or 7 days after the last prop shot. You don't want the last drug out of your system to be deca. You could also switch over from prop to enanthate, and just continue the enanthate a week or two beyond the deca, and start pct 3 weeks after the last shot of enanth. If you choose to do that, post again for suggestions on how to switch over and keep total test levels as stable as possible.

Make sure you know exactly what you are gonna do before you begin a cycle. Your first cycle ideally should have been test-only.

**SoulCard** · 03-26-2005, 06:52 PM

O.K...lemme see if I got this right...Test Prop 100 mg every other day (or every day?) for 3-4 weeks (which is probablly good since it will probablly take about 10-12 days to get the test and I have 4 more weeks of deca left..so the overlap/test run after the end of deca will be right) and then start the clomid one week after my last shot of test.

I have used deca in the past and have never had any negative side effects from it and have been seeing some very decent results so far from this...all this to say that I seem to tolerate both the deca and dina very well...although I do understand the benefit of using test as a base and everything else as a supp to that