best mass cycle out of these three?

**jgg1221** · 03-26-2005, 10:54 AM

which cycle is better for mass?

**stocky121** · 03-26-2005, 10:57 AM

i would say test e deca and d/boll's

**SwoleCat** · 03-26-2005, 10:58 AM

For lean mass, tren /prop.

For bodyweight mass, E/D/D-B

~SC~

**joevette** · 03-26-2005, 01:02 PM

I'm a big fan of Test prop and tren ace, they give you good clean gains without any bloat. The bloat always tricks you into thinking you've gained more than you really have, and I hate that.

**redmeat** · 03-26-2005, 02:37 PM

How about test/tren /eq, with either dbol or var.

**jgg1221** · 03-26-2005, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by redmeat

How about test/tren/eq, with either dbol or var.

yeah test tren , var and maybe a low dose of EQ(just to stimulate appitite)
would be an amazing cycle in terms of results

however i dont know if you should stack any orals with tren, that could really hurt your liver

Swellin · 03-26-2005, 03:58 PM

Of the ones you have listed, the second one is for gaining size at any cost. I hate repeating this, but your diet will make or break any of these three cycles.

**redmeat** · 03-26-2005, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by jgg1221

however i dont know if you should stack any orals with tren, that could really hurt your liver

Tren isn't 17AA. It's not liver toxic.

***Billy_Bathgate*** · 03-26-2005, 04:54 PM

test deca var tren is what i would pick..

**TheMudMan** · 03-26-2005, 05:04 PM

For mass/strength Test/tren would be my pick

**saluu** · 03-26-2005, 09:31 PM

for mass and strenght anadrol , frontloaded 6 weeks 100mg ed and test 500mg a wk and tren number one in size and strength hands down nothing beats it your strenght from tren and anadrol well be unbeliveable and mass from anadrol and test cant be beat . plus you will be vascular as well from anadrol but tren will make you a spider . i should know because i have

**Anabolica** · 03-29-2005, 12:54 AM

Originally Posted by redmeat
How about test/tren/eq, with either dbol or var.

Has anyone ran that cycle? sounds good

**zuke** · 03-29-2005, 12:57 AM

i have ran test/tren /eq, had to start taking potassium because i was cramping pretty bad no matter how much water i drank

**zuke** · 03-29-2005, 12:58 AM

i got very cut and very vascular from it though and i could tell the day the eq kicked in cuz my strength went through the roof

**needle** · 03-29-2005, 01:25 AM

Tren and any test is a great for mass !!!!

**Anabolica** · 03-29-2005, 01:53 AM

Sounds sweet, i'll try that for my next cycle.

what about finishing the last 4-5 weeks with Var?

potassium ha, how much did you take ed bro?

**zuke** · 03-29-2005, 01:57 AM

i dont remember how much potassium it was. i just got a bottle of it from vitamin world and took two pills a day. it made the cramps go away

**Anabolica** · 03-29-2005, 02:07 AM

Thx mate,
what about the var. would it be worthwhile finishing that cycle with it?

**zuke** · 03-29-2005, 02:11 AM

i would just finish the cycle with the tren . if you are taking test prop you can run the tren to the end of your prop shots, but if you are taking enanthate , i like to run the tren out a week or so after so that it's out of your system about the same time as the test. i don't know if anyone else does this, but it works for me.

**zuke** · 03-29-2005, 02:12 AM

tren is supposed to be pretty hard on your liver, tho i haven't experienced it. i haven't taken var at the same time and really don't see a need. tren will make you hard by itself.

**zuke** · 03-29-2005, 02:14 AM

my next cycle is going to be:

wk 1-8 test prop 100mg/ed
wk 1-8 tren a 75mg/ed

i am sticking to the short esters and running it pretty short at 8 weeks. i have actually thought about only running it 6 weeks so that i can run the cycle more often.

**Anabolica** · 03-29-2005, 02:30 AM

Cool, if you could throw in an oral,what would it be?

When i run that cycle ill run it for 24 weeks useing low dosages. (TREN FOR 8 WEEKS ONLY)
Test e @ 350mg ew
Tren a @ 50 mg ed(for 8 weeks,i may up the dosage to 75 depending on sides)
EQ@ 300mg ew
I may also run nolva @ 10mg thruout.
Milk thistle thruout(for liver health)
B6@200mg ed
2 crandberry tabs ed (for kidney health)
I'm on hrt so i can fall back on that but will use Nolva as PCT.

The reason fro a long cycle is becouse i havnt ran a cycle more than 12 weeks before.

Sorry about hijacking the thread

**zuke** · 03-29-2005, 02:36 AM

i'm not big on orals, but you could take dbol for the first four weeks to jumpstart it

**zuke** · 03-29-2005, 02:37 AM

if i could pick any oral to take tho, it would be halotesten... if only i could find the stuff

**Anabolica** · 03-29-2005, 02:41 AM

hey Zuke, check your pm's bro

**Danbrooks2k** · 03-29-2005, 02:46 AM

here is what I just started...

1-4 30mg d-bol/day
1-10 600mg EQ/week
1-12 1,000mg Test E/week
1-8 75mg Tren A/day

if that dosent pack some muscle on my newly health consious ass I dont know what will....

**zuke** · 03-29-2005, 02:54 AM

Originally Posted by Danbrooks2k

here is what I just started...

1-4 30mg d-bol/day
1-10 600mg EQ/week
1-12 1,000mg Test E/week
1-8 75mg Tren A/day

if that dosent pack some muscle on my newly health consious ass I dont know what will....

that's some healthy dosages. it sounds like you are already started so let us know how it works out. not meaning to critique, but i would have waited on the tren and ran it out through the end.