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    Question Safest gear to...

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    Harden up ones body? I know diet and exercise are the best ways, but I can't seem to get my muscles hard.. I am 26 6í1 185lbs 12% bf and been working out 8 years. Iíve been using clen and e/c/a for about 2 months and it has helped, but I still feel I have a long way to go. Any ideaís on what the best yet safest gear I could use to help harden me up? Keep in mind I only want to cut not add mass.

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    primabolan, equipose, anavar

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    Originally posted by BE_STRONG
    primabolan, equipose, anavar
    Here a list lf cutting roids going in order of decreasing safety.
    1. Anavar /Primo - both are the easiest on natty test levels. However, those are the two most expensive roids...
    2. Eq/Winny - Winny doesn't aromotize to estrogen, eq improves circulation - brings out those veins
    3. Test Prop - Note: you could substitute another type of test depending on your goals. i.e if you preparing for a contest - you'd better use prop.
    4. Fina - doesn't aromtize to estrogen, but effects natty test levels more than regular test. But, it's also one of the best cutting roids (IMO)

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    while where on this... i've always wanted to know how long the hardness effects from winny or var or primo last? Assuming all things constant... do the muscles stay hard post cycle for years, sorry if this is a dumb question, but I have always wondered and never had it answered.

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    i thought that fina converets to proestrogen very easy, right, so you could still get gyno from it, but if you take winny which is a anti proestrogen then this helps the situation ?? mabye im wrong, any comment s also bump for nightop's ?

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    fina doesn't convert to progesterone, it just binds to the progesterone receptors and activates it. winny also binds to these receptors, but it doesn't activate them, so it occupies them and prevents fina from binding. however, your body has a shitload of progesterone receptors and you won't be able to take enough winny to block all these receptors.

    fina gyno is rare.

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    bump for my last question plz.

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    bump and bump bump.. I'd also like to hear about this..

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    bump again

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    one more time

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    Mind if I one bump ya?

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