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05-08-2005, 05:45 PM #1
My first cycle,test only. Lifting 2 months. Am I ready? see pics
I have been doing a lot of research on steroids and have come to the conclusion that a test only cycle is the best one to start with. I plan on taking 400mg a week with anti-estrogen on hand. I am 5’5 and I weigh 162 pounds. I have been intensely working out “max ot” for 2 months. I relies from these forums that it doesn’t really matter how much roids you take, it matters how hard you train and how much you eat. I see pictures of guys that are on juice, some are skinny and some are big. I eat 5 to 6 times a day and drink a protein shake with every meal. I drink at least a gallon of water a day. I wake up at least twice a night to urinate, at that time I drink a protein shake. I run every other day on the treadmill for 30 min, up hill. Be honest, am I ready for my first cycle even though I’ve only been lifting for two months? Thank You
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05-08-2005, 05:50 PM #2
if yo have only been working out for 2 month you need to perfect your work out first and wait a year or so you can do alot of steroid free growing betwen now and then
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05-08-2005, 05:51 PM #3
NO! you have too much potential for natural gains. age?
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05-08-2005, 05:54 PM #4
I am 28 years old.
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05-08-2005, 05:54 PM #5
you need to be working out for 2-3 solid years to build up a good base and improve your diet and training too. Without a solid base, you will most likely end up losing any gains youve made. Follow the bulking diet sticky in the diet forum and you'll put on size in no time.
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05-08-2005, 06:13 PM #6Originally Posted by longhorn814
2-3 years? how about 1. I think I will reach my limit in 1 year. max-ot
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05-08-2005, 06:16 PM #7Originally Posted by surfnsailor
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05-08-2005, 06:19 PM #8Originally Posted by FrkyBgStok
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05-08-2005, 06:20 PM #9
I just wanted to get big quick. but, you guys know best. thanks much
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05-08-2005, 06:21 PM #10
also you don't want to train balls to the wall all the time for 2-3 years. you will get burned out, hit a wall, a say screw it.
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05-08-2005, 06:22 PM #11Originally Posted by surfnsailor
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05-08-2005, 06:43 PM #12
So based on a great diet, intense training and my frame (see pics) how much do you think I would be able to gain naturally in 2 years?
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05-08-2005, 07:04 PM #13
at least 20 lbs i would say
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05-08-2005, 07:41 PM #14
shave that hair off you'll look alot better.
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05-08-2005, 09:23 PM #15Originally Posted by speedtraining
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05-08-2005, 09:28 PM #16Originally Posted by speedtraining
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05-08-2005, 09:31 PM #17Originally Posted by surfnsailor
there is no get big quick.
you look alright bro, not ready to cycle but in 8-12 months, sure.
without a solid base to work off from, youll just lose most/all of your gains on juice.
picture it like building a house on sand, itll last for a short time but not for long.
goodluck bro!
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05-08-2005, 09:36 PM #18
thegr8one: dude, thats a freaky avatar
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05-08-2005, 09:47 PM #19Originally Posted by bradd5150
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05-08-2005, 09:48 PM #20
little picture by the names
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05-08-2005, 09:52 PM #21Originally Posted by bradd5150
start your own thread.
dont hijack this one
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05-08-2005, 09:55 PM #22Originally Posted by Jantzen4k
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05-08-2005, 10:08 PM #23Originally Posted by FrkyBgStok
Frkybgstok, do you think this is a must.
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05-09-2005, 08:41 PM #24
When to start
I think when you want to start really depends on your goals. Do you want to get big quick but then have to deal with some bad aspects of that - don't keep the gains, get depressed when you lose the gains, do heavy AAS cycles with possible health risks, etc.? Or do you want to get big but be healthy and look good not just for now but when you're 40, 50, 60?
As for me, I'm going the "live long and prosper" route - what I call Vulcan Training. Lifting, eating right, and supplementing smart are a lifestyle for me. Something I hope to do for the rest of my life. Looking at things from that perspective, what's your hurry? Lift natural for now and eat good and see what amazing things will happen in the next few years. When you stop seeing progress and maybe slow down or when you get older and your test levels drop (like me), then maybe think about giving things a boost with AAS.
As for me... I worked out hard my first year but saw little as far as great changes. My weight didn't change at all. But all the time I WAS changing. Fat was going away and I was building muscle. Eventually (after at least one year of hard training) I began to see some significant improvements. Every week in the gym I would see some improvement and that was great. Then when I tried AAS the improvements were greatly accelerated. But if I had started AAS sooner, when I was still fat and lacked a good base, I doubt I would have seen any change!
So keep at it. Lift, eat, sleep, and supplement smart. You'll build a good base and get a better idea of when your body is ready for the boost of AAS. Plus you'll really learn what works and doesn't work for you as far as training, eating, and supplementing are concerned. These things you cannot learn just from reading or teaching from others - the only true teacher is the hours you spend sweating and straining in the gym under impossible stacks of iron.
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05-10-2005, 12:03 AM #25Banned
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That post above mine is very generous... hey dude.. unless you are married... at least trim those pits.. looks like you got carrot top in a headlock.
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05-10-2005, 06:40 AM #26
check out the diet forum to see how to eat correctly. Diet is more important than a lot of people give it credit. and understand that you actually build muscle outside the gym. get your rest and don't over train trying to hit your goals.
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05-10-2005, 06:52 AM #27Anabolic Member
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My advice is hit the test e 500mg per week cycle now. I did a test only cycle 6 months after I started lifting for the 1st time. I dont regret it and i got bigger faster than i could have naturally. My diet was in check from day 1 and i saw most of my gains in the 12 weeks i was on cycle. The sides from 500mg ew test is minimal. this is just my advice cause i know if you have researched steroids already you are never going to wait 1 yr let alone 2-3 if you are 28. I say why take a yr to accomplish what you can do in 16 weeks on cycle.
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05-10-2005, 07:06 AM #28Originally Posted by Fat Mike
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05-10-2005, 07:09 AM #29AR Hall of Fame
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Originally Posted by surfnsailor
Seems to be a common theme these days.
You are no where near ready for AAS. Not a flame, but the real cold
hard brutal honesty type truth.
~SC~
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05-10-2005, 07:53 AM #30New Member
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if the end results are the same - i.e. max weight of 105 kg from a starting base weight of 75kg
why train naturally for 3 years to get 95kg
when you can take a few cycles over 6 months - get to 105kg instantly
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05-10-2005, 07:54 AM #31Junior Member
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Originally Posted by FrkyBgStok
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05-10-2005, 08:06 AM #32Originally Posted by steroid123
Stop trying to give newbies advice when you are so uneducated/ignorant yourself.
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05-10-2005, 08:15 AM #33New Member
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who said 60lbs ?
45lbs in 8 weeks from a 3 steroid stack is not unheard of.
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05-10-2005, 09:06 AM #34Originally Posted by steroid123
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05-10-2005, 09:19 AM #35Originally Posted by roidattack
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05-10-2005, 09:36 AM #36New Member
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Originally Posted by roidattack
If you read my post you will see I never once mentioned the 45lbs i could gain would be pure muscle. That would be impossible. Of course there would be some water/fat included.
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05-10-2005, 09:46 AM #37Originally Posted by steroid123
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05-10-2005, 09:48 AM #38Originally Posted by steroid123
So the answer to your question is you
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05-10-2005, 09:53 AM #39New Member
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yes , 2-4lbs a week naturally is easy if you have not reached your full potential.
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05-10-2005, 09:54 AM #40New Member
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