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05-09-2005, 12:11 PM #41Junior Member
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05-09-2005, 12:18 PM #42New Member
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the first info i found,
in 2 months - someone with crap genetivs can get this.
www.deca-sustanon.com/cycle.htm
This simple cycle can gain a first time steroid user 20-30 pounds. Sustanon is one of the best beginner drugs to use, and is great on it's own.
but you guys think im talking shit, wanting to put on 45 lbs taking sus/deca /winstrol .
and that i cant put on 54lbs in a year naturally.
either envy or close minded
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05-09-2005, 12:19 PM #43Member
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Originally Posted by steroid123
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05-09-2005, 12:22 PM #44New Member
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so dorian yates, who is pretty thin skinny guy now.
if he started training again, u dont think he would get 50-75lbs in a year ?
of course he would. because his body was once big, very easy to put on mass if you have already had it before
im not building 100% from nothing, just putting back what has been there many times before. there is a differenceLast edited by steroid123; 05-09-2005 at 12:27 PM.
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05-09-2005, 12:27 PM #45Member
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he would probbaly die from all the juice he would have to start taking again. Liek they said earlier 75 pounds of muscle? thats nuts.
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05-09-2005, 12:28 PM #46Member
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also you are not dorian yates, but maybe elmer fudd!
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05-09-2005, 01:09 PM #47Originally Posted by steroid123
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05-09-2005, 01:33 PM #48New Member
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if you look at the start of the thread - it was about me gaining on steroids .
i wanted 45lbs in 8 week course and they said impossible which is crap. since ive seen it done many times before.
and then i said, i can get half that without steroids in 8 weeks, so it seems reasonable to me.
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05-09-2005, 01:33 PM #49Originally Posted by steroid123
I think your also expecting to much from a cycle even if your are simply gaining what you once lost. If it is THAT easy for you to simply gain what you claim you once had, why think about AS?
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05-09-2005, 01:59 PM #50New Member
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your the only one talking sense bigswiftos.
the reason i want to take the steroids , is because it is not "that easy" for me to simply gain my size back. it will take a year and eating like a monster. 100-200g whey a day, 6 meals etc.
why go through all that, if i can get the 45lb in 8 weeks. so back to my original question and topic of the post.
is - sus-deca -winstrol a good stack ? 1 guy said winstrol does not work with the other 2. i think it will help build more quality muscle, and keep some of the negative sus effects away
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05-09-2005, 02:03 PM #51
You sound more stupid everytime you post...
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05-09-2005, 02:04 PM #52Junior Member
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Thats not enough food or whey to gain like a monster no f-ing way. What do the 6 meals look like. I would say you dont even hit 3500 cals a day.
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05-09-2005, 02:10 PM #53Originally Posted by steroid123
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05-09-2005, 02:13 PM #54
You do not KNOW if you can obtain the 45lbs in 8 weeks do you?
I do not think you will be able to obtain 45lbs in 8 weeks, even if you once had it, it will take longer, gains are lost faster than there gained back. For example: If you lost 45lbs in 8 weeks it may take 15 weeks to get back.
What every-one is saying is that your expecting far to much IMO
That aside, I'd go with a single Test ester such as Enan/Cyp which means less frequent injections. Here is a cycle which I posted just now for a newbie:
Below is a cycle I would suggest to a 1st timer:
1-12 Test Enan/Cyp 500mg/wk (250mg E3.5 Days)
1-4 Dbol 25-40mg/ED
6-12 Winstrol or Anavar 50mg/ED (to harden any gains made)
1-12 Nolva 10mg/ED
PCT
14-16 Clomid 100mg/ED
16-18 Clomid 50mg/ED
14-18 Nolva 20mg/ED
14-18 Creatine 5g/ED
14-18 Tribulas 3-5g/ED
Also include all your normal supplements during the cycle such as:
Flax Seed Oil
1000mg Vit C
Milk Thistle
Mult-Vit
Protein Powders etc...
Iv included the Winnie OR Var which you may need to harden any gains made from the Test. Also I'd leave the Deca out till a next cycle. However, if you choose to include it run it 100mg/wk lower than the Test and make sure you match PCT times up correctly.
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05-09-2005, 02:14 PM #55Junior Member
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Originally Posted by punchrf
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05-09-2005, 02:15 PM #56New Member
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Originally Posted by Dozer
how many calories do you think one big mac meal has ?
im sure it is a lot more than 600 - the fries alone probably have more
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05-09-2005, 02:21 PM #57Junior Member
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Originally Posted by steroid123
So far we have 100g-200g of whey
Meal 1 1 big mac meal
meal 2?
meal 3?
meal 4?
meal 5?
meal 6?
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05-09-2005, 02:22 PM #58Originally Posted by steroid123
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05-09-2005, 02:22 PM #59Originally Posted by steroid123
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05-09-2005, 02:40 PM #60AR's Salad Tossing Connoisseur
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again and again.... this never gets old.. lol
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05-09-2005, 02:54 PM #61Originally Posted by Mesomorphyl
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05-09-2005, 03:03 PM #62
that source you posted has some of the worst cycles and bullshit info I have ever read. Of course they tell you sus will gain you 30 pounds straight because they want you to BUY it at there ridiculous over inflated prices.
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05-09-2005, 03:03 PM #63Junior Member
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well good luck with what ever you decide, go to the diet fourm and read up on bulking Big Macs are crap.
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05-09-2005, 03:06 PM #64Originally Posted by Mesomorphyl
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05-09-2005, 03:08 PM #65
steroid123 you should delete this thread as it will come back to haunt you. Does anyone remember glock19 and his 50lbs of muscle while loosing 15%bf on a winny only cycle? And he was quoted about that and called a liar all the time... Do you want that? Again the best thing to do is delete. Do it for yourself.
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05-10-2005, 01:32 AM #66Originally Posted by steroid123
man, this guy cracks me up. post some pics and then in a week some more, u should have gained 5 pounds of pure muscle mass that s gonna be great
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