Question about Sust w/ Deca and D-bol

**ElTornado** · 06-23-2005, 01:49 PM

I planned on running a cycle with 500mg sust, 400mg Deca for 10 weeks and 35mg D-bol for 4 weeks. My question is.... I don't like the type of Deca my guy has (Cytec...some underground crap), would it be ok to just run the D-bol and Sust ? Will I still get decent gains (mass) ?

Thanks guys.

**Alpha-Male** · 06-23-2005, 02:51 PM

havent heard of cytec, but UG isnt crap, depending on where you get it...but dbol with the sust will definitely yield gains...proper pct, blah, blah, blah

**JdFlex** · 06-23-2005, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by Alpha-Male

havent heard of cytec, but UG isnt crap, depending on where you get it...but dbol with the sust will definitely yield gains...proper pct, blah, blah, blah

Agreed.

**ElTornado** · 06-23-2005, 03:05 PM

thanks alot, I know not all underground is crap, I should have not said it that way. I have seen this particular Deca in action and the user ( workout partner) got next to nothing from it. PCT you mean clomid therapy ?

**Alpha-Male** · 06-23-2005, 03:22 PM

fa sho, and you will prob. need some adex or proviron during (some like nolva 2)

**scotttiger54** · 06-23-2005, 03:26 PM

sust and dbol was one of my first cycles. i enjoyed it

**ElTornado** · 06-23-2005, 03:30 PM

i can only find Nova where I live, do I really need it ? I did a sust deca cycle a few years ago and gained no to very little noticable water. Is the Nova only to prevent water retention ?

**scotttiger54** · 06-23-2005, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by ElTornado

i can only find Nova where I live, do I really need it ? I did a sust deca cycle a few years ago and gained no to very little noticable water. Is the Nova only to prevent water retention ?

nolva's to prevent estrogen. you def need to run 10mg/ed

**ElTornado** · 06-23-2005, 03:38 PM

10 md/ everday. Ok, I will get some, do I need to run it even after the first four weeks on D-bol or throughtout the cycle ? Will it take away from gains ?

**scotttiger54** · 06-23-2005, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by ElTornado

10 md/ everday. Ok, I will get some, do I need to run it even after the first four weeks on D-bol or throughtout the cycle ? Will it take away from gains ?

you need to run the nolva through pct. and no it won't hinder gains imo. also, you need to bump the nolva to 20mg during pct when your est levels are highest and the dominant sex hormone in your body is est

**ElTornado** · 06-23-2005, 03:45 PM

so let me get this right.... 10mg/ed during cycle and 20mg/ed during pct (clomid therapy). Are the "research" stuff good enough to use that they advertise.