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    Try hcg . makes me hornier than a three-balled billygoat, especially the first few shots.

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    hm

    I've had more bodyfat in my chest area for as long as I can remember, but I never had pain or any "lumps" so I dont think its gyno..

    But im curious, after the surgery how long were you out from the gym post-surgery?

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    Day 8
    Still nothing to report
    just started T3 and Clen combo about 3 mins ago got 5 weeks to get ready for my wedding

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    Hey Tim
    Don't rub the stuff on your nips bro
    It needs to get in your bloodstream to work affectively
    Putting it on your nips is just wasting it
    Take it orally only

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    I have stopped putting it on my nips as I was not convinced !

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    I found letro to help me loose those love handles.

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    Tim, I am currently taking letro to help get rid of a small bump that formed within the past 2 weeks. If it's any consolation, my attempts are becoming successful. I no longer have the puffyness and you would never know I had anything unless you press under the skin. Best of luck with everything, there's still hope!

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    Cheers justin hope is half the battle
    Day 8
    Still no shrinkage still on 1.25 ed
    sex drive fells very low but I can still peform ok well i did last night
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    Pleeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaase shrink !
    My rat has just taken some clen and t3 from a-r-r and he is shaking like a mother F*cker so I have faith in the quality of the letro so only time will tell if it works for me !

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    Day 12
    Still no shrinkage
    still on 1.25mcg ed

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    I would increase the dose to 2.5mg ED. Are you on a cycle at the moment bro? Sorry, i can't remember if you said you were or not.

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    Double up on the letro. If it doesn't go down any at all in 2-3 weeks, it just isn't going down.

    BTW mine has gone down a good bit, so there is hope. I was treating quite aggressively with nolva, cabergoline, B6, and letro... also tried site injections of winny just above the nipple since I was at the end of the cycle and running winny anyhow. I dropped the fina a while back and so I am not doing any progestin type stuff right now. I ran out of cabergoline and didn't get more but I continued the B6. Running 40mg/ED nolva and 2.5mg letro. I can feel the gyno now but I can't see it. Hopefully it will stay down after PCT. I'm afraid though that after my next cycle I am gonna have to get it cut out. We'll see.

    The winny site injections were just a desperate measure and I truly have no idea if the idea was worthwhile or not. I like to think that the winny helped but more experienced minds have told me that it probably didn't.

    Getting gyno to shrink appreciably is very difficult and not possible in all sufferers. When it does happen, it is generally the result of very aggressive treatment. I don't think you can diddle around with standard preventative doses and have much hope of success once the lumps are already obvious.

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    Tim,
    Be encouraged man I was in the 5th week of my prop and winny cycle and it came on me with a vengance. Never had gyno issues ever before, I've run 12 cycles over the past 10 years and NEVER had any gyno problems. There truly is a first time for everything.... that sucks. I immediatley ordered the letro and have been on it now for 7 days @ 2.5 mgs./day; I had it in both nips and they hurt like heck , especially when lying on my stomach when sleeping at night. I thought I noticed the lumps shrinking at day 4 but didn't want to post (just in case it were wishful thinking on my part) but now at day 7 I can definitively say that they are indeed going down my right one more so than my left. I am still on cycle 500mgs/week Prop and 75 mgs/day winny have 8 days left and at that time will reduce the letro to 1.5mgs./day and so on and so on until I have tapered off completely. By the way I read yesterday in a study that was done in 1997? I think, that it takes 7- 14 days to reach steady blood plasma levels, so there is still hope, but I too would bump the letro up to 2.5/day IMO. stay encourged...although I know it is tough ---all that hard work and then the gyno grabs you. Hang in and def. consider bumping the letro up . Take care.

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