eq vs. deca for ligaments

**Beyond_Gatted** · 07-10-2005, 12:53 PM

hi im new here. i just wantes to find out some more info about eq and deca . sice i have an injury to my shoulder ligament one of my friends suggested that i try deca to help heal my injury. the only problem i have with this is that i'm gonna be playing football at a junior college my sophmore year and i would end up getting tested if we happened to play in a bowl game. i have to take my freshman year off due to my injury. i heard that eq also helped lube up joints and tighten ligaments but i wanted to get some more info on it. i've been to a couple a doctors and tried all the natural solutions. im not messed up to the point to where i need surgery so i'm just wondering if eq could help me out.

**j.r.w.** · 07-10-2005, 12:55 PM

I would say go with the deca .

**v-twin** · 07-10-2005, 12:58 PM

Bro,would have to agree with j.r.w. deca seems to really help w/my knee 's

**YouCanDoIt** · 07-10-2005, 01:00 PM

Is your shoulder the ONLY reason you want to deca it up?

**Beyond_Gatted** · 07-12-2005, 01:05 AM

no my shoulder isnt the only reason. i have a bad wrist too. that and i'd like to put on some mass for football.

**Drummerboy** · 07-12-2005, 01:20 AM

wow... bad shoulder, wrist and you want to use AAS to bulk up for football... careful, i got hurt doin that (i felt no pain, UNTIL i stopped the deca - OUCH)

**cwhid** · 07-12-2005, 01:33 AM

u can test positive for deca for up to 18 months so id be careful in using that one if youre worried about getting tested. do a search on glucosamine...really helpful stuff when it comes to tendons, ligaments, and cartliedge.

**Two4the$$** · 07-12-2005, 04:33 AM

Why not HGH? Or NPP? Isn't the detection time of NPP shorter?

**Beyond_Gatted** · 07-12-2005, 11:08 AM

i was thinking abobut HGH. whats NPP?

**Bigun** · 07-12-2005, 03:06 PM

Nandrolone Phenyl Propionate shorter acting ester

**Benches505** · 07-12-2005, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by Beyond_Gatted

i was thinking abobut HGH. whats NPP?

Think of NPP as The test prop version of Deca . I'm not sure if the detection times are much different.

Bump
Anyone know?

**mark956101957** · 07-12-2005, 04:00 PM

EQ has consistantly taken away my shoulder pain away while on a cycle.

**Beyond_Gatted** · 07-12-2005, 11:07 PM

is the pain relief only while on cycle?

**mark956101957** · 07-13-2005, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by Beyond_Gatted

is the pain relief only while on cycle?

The pain relief is when I am taking the EQ and the worse whenever I start lifting heavy which is the worse while on a cycle bcause I am lifting the heaviest but still have no pain as long as I am taking the EQ....

**YouCanDoIt** · 07-14-2005, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by Beyond_Gatted

no my shoulder isnt the only reason. i have a bad wrist too. that and i'd like to put on some mass for football.

Bro...I can't even begin telling you how wrong using AS for football is.
Don't mean any disrespect, but you just shouldn't do it.
it is unfair to your fellow players, oposing players and the public.
Especially since it's a contact sport.

think about it.

**hoopcat528** · 07-14-2005, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by YouCanDoIt

Bro...I can't even begin telling you how wrong using AS for football is.
Don't mean any disrespect, but you just shouldn't do it.
it is unfair to your fellow players, oposing players and the public.
Especially since it's a contact sport.

think about it.

I don't know if you are just kidding with this quote ? He needs steroids as a football player.

I played football in high school, junior college, major college, and then the NFL (for only 3 games before I was waived).

I would have had a longer career if I used higher dosages of steroids, as opposed to the low doses I was taking.

During my time (mid 1980's) roughly 95% of the linemen were taking steroids. I thought that steroids were out of the game nowadays, but with BALCO we have all learned that steroids are still present, just "new", undetectable, designer steroids.

Since he is competing against steroid users, he also need steroids. Just be sure to do whatever is necessary to pass the drug tests.

**YouCanDoIt** · 07-15-2005, 09:25 AM

What a terrorist attitude bro.
You are making america weaker by saying that.
Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with AS, but in an appropriate setting.
Like...bodybuilding.

Yeah, athletes use steroids ...but also, terrorists hate us 'cause we're free.
neither is right, despite the fact that both take place.
Yes, it is an ethical dillema.
I'd like to mention a "south park" episode where the challenged boy gets caught
using "AS" at the special olympics. And what he says Barry, Mark and Jason are...
if y'all know what I mean.

**hoopcat528** · 07-15-2005, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by YouCanDoIt

What a terrorist attitude bro.
You are making america weaker by saying that.
Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with AS, but in an appropriate setting.
Like...bodybuilding.

Yeah, athletes use steroids ...but also, terrorists hate us 'cause we're free.
neither is right, despite the fact that both take place.
Yes, it is an ethical dillema.
I'd like to mention a "south park" episode where the challenged boy gets caught
using "AS" at the special olympics. And what he says Barry, Mark and Jason are...
if y'all know what I mean.

Understand, I "wish" they were able to defintively test for all steriods (and other performance enhancers) but they are not able to.

Therefore, if he wishes to compete at that level, he'll have to do the same thing that the people he competes against also do, which is juice.

ps I love America, I know how fortunate we are !

**Two4the$$** · 07-15-2005, 02:47 PM

I can't even comment on how absurd the notion of not using steroids is in pro athletics. It's just too dumb to even respond to directly.

**Two4the$$** · 07-15-2005, 02:55 PM

and it can't be any more terrorist than buying gas, which basically is the lifeline to every bannana republic in the mid east.

**palumbo** · 07-15-2005, 02:56 PM

comparing it too terrorists does that make sense to anyone?

**YouCanDoIt** · 07-15-2005, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by palumbo

comparing it too terrorists does that make sense to anyone?

You are questioning things! for one thing. Just rally around the flag.
What, you think AS manufacturing brings profit to americans?
So, why do you have to drive south of the border to get it...(because it's illegal.)
But, my point is - it's not americans that benefit from it. Kinda like spending money on street drugs benefits terrorists. Anyone here watch FOX news, ever?

Gas is different. Our AMERICAN culture depends on cars and driving them.
Do you wanna walk to the store like some liberal french person?
didn't think so. Might as well wear a beret.

**YouCanDoIt** · 07-15-2005, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by TrumanHW

I can't even comment on how absurd the notion of not using steroids is in pro athletics. It's just too dumb to even respond to directly.

That's a GREAT attitude, by the way.
"everyone is doing it, so I might as well."
I guess TrumanHW, you won't die of integrity any time soon...
No offense.