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    Quote Originally Posted by blackh2
    its in dallas texas. not a small town prosecutor at all.
    He may be trying to make an example of you - with all the recent media hype about steroids .

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    1. prosecutors always act like pricks in the beginning of the case.
    2. ask your lawyer if he knows the prosecutor personally, thats usually the case if they've been around long enough. usually they scrath eachothers backs when it comes to certain cases.
    3. maybe the prosecutor just does'nt like your lawyer.

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    Good Local Lawyer! You want the guy that the prosecutor drinks his friday brewski with, or shoots golf with. You want them to talk it over like gentlemen and agree that you really are a nice kid and putting you behind bars or ending your career will only make you a less productive member of society. They GOT you. The scrip won't help a bit. Not only because you didn't have the scrip at the time, but also because you did not buy your gear from a pharmacy under the authorization of the prescription. The search and resulting evidence WON'T be supressed... you gave consent and that is that. THis is definitely where backroom justice is in your best interest. You could come off with just misdemeanor probation and later on have it expunged (erased, in effect) from your record. Without a local lawyer, you are, my guess, gonna get a felony and probation or possibly misdemeanor with some jail time. I doubt that they would seek a felony conviction with any (serious) jail time but the whole idea is to avoid the felony conviction.

    If worse comes to worse, all is not lost... it is possible that you could get even a felony expunged, eventually. There is life after career-self-destruction. You could maybe start over in a related field. Or go to truck driving school... couple grand and two weeks and you are making a decent living, at least. Don't let this eat at you so much that your worrying interferes with your ability to make sound decisions. It's never as bad as we think it will be.

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    What a total bummer. Especially when you consider Ronnie Coleman is a reserve police officer in Arlington, Texas. What a double standard shit hole.

    Good luck.

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    Now I am confused. If you refuse to give permission for a search of your vehicle, what happens and what are the ramifications?

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    Quote Originally Posted by darmadoc
    Now I am confused. If you refuse to give permission for a search of your vehicle, what happens and what are the ramifications?
    Well, a few things could happen: If the cop believes he has probable cause to believe you are engaged in criminal activity, he can search (i.e. smells weed, alcohol, etc.). If not, the cop may bring a canine unit to your car, and if the dog "hits" on anything, the cop will have probable cause to search. Basically, the bottom line is this: no probable cause and no consent, no search. People need to know that they can refuse a search - sure this may arouse suspicion in the cop, but he still needs independent probable cause to search. If he does without legitimate probable cause, any evidence obtained will be inadmissible. DO NOT CONSENT TO A SEARCH - EVER - EVEN IF THE COP PRETENDS TO BE COOL, AND MAKES YOU THINK HE WILL LET YOU GO - HE IS TRYING TO OBTAIN EVIDENCE AGAINST YOU - POLITELY REFUSE THE SEARCH.

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    dude the exact same thing happend to me. Cept i just got pulled over like 2 months ago. They let me go and said they were gonna send the stuff off to a lab and if confirmed i will have a warrant out for my arrest. DId the cops come and arrest U and make u post bail and all that stuff? or what IM still waiting to see what happens with me

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    Quote Originally Posted by RYNO
    Well, a few things could happen: If the cop believes he has probable cause to believe you are engaged in criminal activity, he can search (i.e. smells weed, alcohol, etc.). If not, the cop may bring a canine unit to your car, and if the dog "hits" on anything, the cop will have probable cause to search. Basically, the bottom line is this: no probable cause and no consent, no search. People need to know that they can refuse a search - sure this may arouse suspicion in the cop, but he still needs independent probable cause to search. If he does without legitimate probable cause, any evidence obtained will be inadmissible. DO NOT CONSENT TO A SEARCH - EVER - EVEN IF THE COP PRETENDS TO BE COOL, AND MAKES YOU THINK HE WILL LET YOU GO - HE IS TRYING TO OBTAIN EVIDENCE AGAINST YOU - POLITELY REFUSE THE SEARCH.
    OK so.... lets say ir efuse this search..... Now the cop can lie and say he smelt weed or alcohol..... and he'll search anyways...... what if he finds a few vials of test or something? Then what?

    Is there a process he has to go through if i deny a search? does he hafta radio in... or write down that he's doing the search anyways because he smells weed or alcohol or w/e it may be?
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    damn that sucks bro, sorry to hear that. good luck with your case. and ryno, thanks for the information you shared with us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazard
    OK so.... lets say ir efuse this search..... Now the cop can lie and say he smelt weed or alcohol..... and he'll search anyways...... what if he finds a few vials of test or something? Then what?

    Is there a process he has to go through if i deny a search? does he hafta radio in... or write down that he's doing the search anyways because he smells weed or alcohol or w/e it may be?
    Well if he actually smells weed, and searches your vehicle and finds a vial of test, it is immaterial that he originally had probable cause to search for weed - you will still be arrested/cited and prosecuted. If the cop lies about smelling weed, he will still search the car based on fictitious probable cause. In this case, it will be your lawyer's job to move to suppress the evidence for lack of actual probable cause. At the suppression hearing, the cop will be required to articulate facts that led him to believe he had probable cause to search the vehicle. There are certainly dishonest cops out there that will trample on your civil liberties, but if the cop is honest, and no independent probable exists, and you do not consent to a search - he will have no option but to leave you alone. REMEMBER - denying consent does not give the cop probable cause to search - it may make him suspicious - but politely tell him, "I have nothing to hide, but searching my car is invasive and there is no legitimate reason for doing it, especially when I have done nothing wrong."

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    Quote Originally Posted by masshole24
    damn that sucks bro, sorry to hear that. good luck with your case. and ryno, thanks for the information you shared with us.
    No worries!!

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    i stand corrected. i read the charge and it says poss of steroid (stanazol) more than 28 grams but less than 200. its a total of 39.7 grams is the exact. my lawyer says he cant get the presecutor to plea to a mis and a felony is all she will do. the prosecutor is female which really sux. he says there wont be a convictition but i ll have to do felony probation. which as of today he didnt know what it would be. he pisses me off cause he says he's done all he can and how he works miracles on cases and if it were anyother prosecutor it would be over, he said he thinks she had a bad experience with a boyfriend or a brother. i told him i didnt care. and i dont!!! if she's having bad dreams about someone else why should i pay the price. i guess felony probation with no conviction just lets me know the fine line i have to walk and the prosecutor knows that if i get into any trouble that will be hanging over my head....... what do you guys think??? ill be back later tonight??? should i take the felony probation????

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackh2
    i stand corrected. i read the charge and it says poss of steroid (stanazol) more than 28 grams but less than 200. its a total of 39.7 grams is the exact. my lawyer says he cant get the presecutor to plea to a mis and a felony is all she will do. the prosecutor is female which really sux. he says there wont be a convictition but i ll have to do felony probation. which as of today he didnt know what it would be. he pisses me off cause he says he's done all he can and how he works miracles on cases and if it were anyother prosecutor it would be over, he said he thinks she had a bad experience with a boyfriend or a brother. i told him i didnt care. and i dont!!! if she's having bad dreams about someone else why should i pay the price. i guess felony probation with no conviction just lets me know the fine line i have to walk and the prosecutor knows that if i get into any trouble that will be hanging over my head....... what do you guys think??? ill be back later tonight??? should i take the felony probation????
    Take it bro - and comply with every single condition so that the felony charge will be dismissed upon successful completion. Do not neglect any condition - this is your chance.

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    ryno not to highjack but i got pulled over and he found eq on me, said he smelt weed and we said a drug dog could walk around the car, well he hit on somethin and they told us to get out of the car. he dug through my gymbag and found my gear.

    Wanted to know though, if they put him on probation, maybe i can get that as well but will they piss test me on probation for steroids . i heard most people wont pisstest you for roids, too expensive. just wondered cuz i wanna get back on cycle asap, but he said it would take about 3 months to get the gear tested and its been almost three.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGSNOR
    ryno not to highjack but i got pulled over and he found eq on me, said he smelt weed and we said a drug dog could walk around the car, well he hit on somethin and they told us to get out of the car. he dug through my gymbag and found my gear.

    Wanted to know though, if they put him on probation, maybe i can get that as well but will they piss test me on probation for steroids. i heard most people wont pisstest you for roids, too expensive. just wondered cuz i wanna get back on cycle asap, but he said it would take about 3 months to get the gear tested and its been almost three.
    If you are on formal felony probation for possession of steroids , it is reasonable to assume they will test you for steroids. Besides, the cost of such tests can be assessed to you personally, not the state, so I doubt they will be all that concerned with the expense. If I were you and on felony probation with the opportunity to have charges dismissed upon successful completion, I would walk a very straight line. In addition to piss tests, oftentimes probation will entail search and seizure for controlled substances or indicia of controlled substances (i.e. pins, etc..). Do not possess these items. Felony probation is no joke - if you screw up and get revoked, you could be looking at incarceration (in the state pen, not county jail). If you get this chance, I would ditch the juice (until you are done at least).

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    about how long do these periods last, is there any way i could pay a fine instead of probation, i cant live without my juice lol sound like an addict.

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ht=busted+cops
    heres my thread, pm me and let me know what u think thanks dude.

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    Best thing to do is contact the local bar association and get an attorney who has alot of political connections and more pull than your current attorney. It is easy call information and ask for the local bar association in the county where you will go to court. Tell them the situation and what you are looking for they will help also do checks on his or her background yourself to make sure they can represent you properly. I am in the same situation right now. I started out with an attorney who promised the world and let me down. I have found another attorney but he is much more expensive. So I am waiting to get the money together. Well good luck bro.

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    not sure how they will piss test me sice i will be getting it from my endocrinologist. for my hypogondism. well the felony probation will suck but i should be able to keep my job cause there is no convictiction. just have to keep it on the hush, hush!!!

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    Man that sucks, steroids are a schedual III drug which is weak, its the same as tylenol with codeine.

    Weed, coke, crack, heroin are all Schedual I drugs which is the worst so taking that into consideration by law your charge should be less then if you where caught with maryjane which normally for under 128grams is just a mis with probate.


    Your getting screwed because its texas and they figured with it in a suitcase and you not living in texas that you where transporting.

    Probably gonna try to make an example of you @ any cost.

    And people say buying on the net is risky , HAH Ill get ripped off any day of the week instead of getting a felony charge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donmega
    Man that sucks, steroids are a schedual III drug which is weak, its the same as tylenol with codeine.

    Weed, coke, crack, heroin are all Schedual I drugs which is the worst so taking that into consideration by law your charge should be less then if you where caught with maryjane which normally for under 128grams is just a mis with probate.


    Your getting screwed because its texas and they figured with it in a suitcase and you not living in texas that you where transporting.

    Probably gonna try to make an example of you @ any cost.

    And people say buying on the net is risky , HAH Ill get ripped off any day of the week instead of getting a felony charge.
    The felony charge has nothing to do with "transporting." The scheduling of controlled substances you refer to is federal law. He is being prosecuted under Texas law, which could have entirely different classifications for illegal drugs (and does). Many/most states provide that possession of steroids is a felony, at any amount.

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    you know here is something that may not matter.. i didd give consent to search my car but there was a dog there in the car. well they never took the dog out. does the fact that i was under the impression he was going to use the dog help any at all???

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackh2
    you know here is something that may not matter.. i didd give consent to search my car but there was a dog there in the car. well they never took the dog out. does the fact that i was under the impression he was going to use the dog help any at all???
    Short answer - no.

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    The weight can really screw you over...because they can hit you off with traffiking distribution...I dont know how it works for juice...but 128 grams of any other drug is traffiking...good luck man

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    heads up any word on dudes situation? what happend bro?

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    heads up any word on dudes situation? what happend bro?
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