Palmeiro busted for steroids

**longhorn814** · 08-01-2005, 01:07 PM

In case you havent seen this yet

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slu...v=ap&type=lgns

Of course he couldnt explain how they got into his body!! What a liar!

**Heracles74** · 08-01-2005, 01:09 PM

LOL... yeah, I saw that - I posted that in the lounge about an hour ago! I love it... he stone faced lied! He deserves it!

**Mesomorphyl** · 08-01-2005, 01:14 PM

I would have lied or just taken the fifth. I would have opened with a statement like, I think congress should be taking care of the economy and foriegn policy... they should not be wasting tax payer monies on hearings... Plus who wants more home runs? the fans. Who wants a 300lbs lineman cream a quarterback? the fans. Who wants to see ronnie colman showing off a 175lbs body? underwear advertising...

**palumbo** · 08-01-2005, 01:21 PM

they all lie its just a matter of who gets caught mcguire was the biggest coward of them all not saying anything is just as bad as lying not like eveyone knows he didnt do it

u bros think this gives any credence to what canseco says in his book maybe people will believe him more?

**dirtyvegas** · 08-01-2005, 01:25 PM

swift kick in the ass to anbody who believes these liars.....They all use/used steroid peroid, "i dont know how to say it any clearer".

What a dumb fvck, who the fvck does he think he is? I quote."I never intentionally put a banned substance into my body.. What a fvckin SCHMUCK liar.. who put it there,who injected him,,, maybee it was the toothfairy while he was sleeping...

Now i wanna send a message to all....anybody looking to play like Rafael Palmeiro take steroids ...plain and simple...there is no way he can cover this shit up now..!!

~DV~

**dirtyvegas** · 08-01-2005, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by palumbo

u bros think this gives any credence to what canseco says in his book maybe people will believe him more?

yes it does...to the whole world. the truth needs to be told...

**longhorn814** · 08-01-2005, 01:45 PM

too bad most people dont like to hear the truth!!!

**Mesomorphyl** · 08-01-2005, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by palumbo

they all lie its just a matter of who gets caught mcguire was the biggest coward of them all not saying anything is just as bad as lying not like eveyone knows he didnt do it

u bros think this gives any credence to what canseco says in his book maybe people will believe him more?

If the law asked you if you used anabolic steroids would you lie and/or say nothing? Yes. If you say no you are dumber than a box of rocks. Hefty prison time for steroids is BS but it is there non the less... Does not make him a coward, I looked up to him for basically saying I will not answer your questions.

**STEVO 47** · 08-01-2005, 02:03 PM

These guys are f...ckin stupid. They know there's a chance of being
tested. What the hell, and they're still doing the shit.

**hardgainer1** · 08-01-2005, 02:04 PM

maybe he thought it was a b-12 injection

**Liquidred** · 08-01-2005, 02:06 PM

I think everyone who is calling them cowards and liers are going a little far. They use they for their jobs. We all know you don't take a shot fall asleep and wake up ronnie coleman. He still has to work his ass off at shit. I honestly don't care if professional players use i think its taking their bodies to the next level they need to compete. America is based on competition and we get mad when someone is too competitive so they use something extra. I would have lied.. The normal person thinks thats steriods are magical beans. I would have never admitted it. He's busted i would still be denying it. Jose conseco is a dick he broke a trust that his fellow users and players had in him to get back into the spotlight. Its bullshit what he pulled. Thats like your lifting partner turning you in for using. Think about it i'm right........I would also like to know what he got busted for using

**CRUISECONTROL** · 08-01-2005, 02:07 PM

Yeah Everyone criticised Big Mac for not admitting or denying.........

But he was the smart one......

**AG5678** · 08-01-2005, 02:11 PM

Palmeiro is in some legal trouble now for making false statements to Congess.

AG5678

**CapnZ** · 08-01-2005, 02:13 PM

What would you do if you were a pro athlete? Let the other guys pass you by and risk losing your job or use gear and take a chance at being caught? They're just humans after all. I would rather see Congress worrying about some more important sh*t than this - like the exponentially growing national deficit or what the hell to do about health care long term. But I agree - he should have told the truth when testifying.

**CRUISECONTROL** · 08-01-2005, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by AG5678

Palmeiro is in some legal trouble now for making false statements to Congess.

AG5678

My point exactly!!!!!!

**longhorn814** · 08-01-2005, 02:19 PM

If it can be shown that Palmeiro's use of steroids occurred before his testimony, he could be prosecuted for perjury. If it can only be shown that the steroid use occurred after his testimony, he could not be prosecuted on that basis.

-- Roger Cossack, ESPN legal analyst

**Baller9** · 08-01-2005, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by CapnZ

What would you do if you were a pro athlete? Let the other guys pass you by and risk losing your job or use gear and take a chance at being caught? They're just humans after all. I would rather see Congress worrying about some more important sh*t than this - like the exponentially growing national deficit or what the hell to do about health care long term. But I agree - he should have told the truth when testifying.

Great Point. For anyone who is criticizing these dudes...just ask yourself this: If putting a needle in your a$$, with the chance that you 'might' get caught meant the difference between making multi-millions in the Bigs or struggling on below poverty line pay in the minors, what would you do?

This isn't just losing your job, this is missing out on a career that can help sustain your family for generations.

At least the standards are becoming fairer. It used to be that minor leaguers were tested extensively while the big leaguers were basically allowed to do whatever they wanted to do. All I ask is that people are allowed to compete for positions on the same playing field...no pun intended.

**QuieTSToRM33** · 08-01-2005, 02:49 PM

for all we know ... his positive test could be for ephedra .... which is on the MLB banned substances list .... and YES ... he is still a hall of famer

**Samson7** · 08-01-2005, 03:23 PM

Jose conseco is a dick he broke a trust that his fellow users and players had in him to get back into the spotlight. Its bullshit what he pulled. Thats like your lifting partner turning you in for using. Think about it i'm right........I would also like to know what he got busted for using

Dude Canseco was mad cause all these guys were putting up Hall of Fame numbers and breaking records and then denying where these abilities came from. At the same time Canseco was getting blackballed from baseball 39 dingers short of 500 and is going to keep him out of the hall because of the same thing that others like Giambi, McGwire and Palmiero were being made into heros for. I would be pissed too.

**STEVO 47** · 08-01-2005, 03:25 PM

You think getting caught doing steroids is going to keep you playing in
the pro's too ?

**Mesomorphyl** · 08-01-2005, 03:25 PM

Fukk that rat Canseco! He needs to look at the " you caused it so deal with it or suck it policy "

**chest6** · 08-01-2005, 03:26 PM

this is posted in the baseball forum too..i think its funny he lied

**Samson7** · 08-01-2005, 03:30 PM

u bros think this gives any credence to what canseco says in his book maybe people will believe him more?

Ya bro...Canseco threw out probably 6 names in the book...now that is six that he knows, that he saw use inject aas... Out of those Six there are now three that we know for Sure juiced Palmiero, McGwire, and Giambi.

**Samson7** · 08-01-2005, 03:38 PM

for all we know ... his positive test could be for ephedra .... which is on the MLB banned substances list .... and YES ... he is still a hall of famer

Highly unlikely since the 10 game suspension is for getting caught using roids the first time. 10 games is for juice specifically not any of the other banned substances

**MuckDog** · 08-01-2005, 03:45 PM

This just helped to sell a 10's of thousands of more books for jose....way to go raffy!

now im actually curious to read the book. i just dont want to give money to some narc. i understand the dudes frustrations but diming out old time friends is def not cool

**Samson7** · 08-01-2005, 05:15 PM

This just helped to sell a 10's of thousands of more books for jose....way to go raffy!

now im actually curious to read the book. i just dont want to give money to some narc. i understand the dudes frustrations but diming out old time friends is def not cool

Actually if you read the book he plainly says his relationship to these guys were almost strictly teaching them about steroids . But i got your point.

**Justarting** · 08-01-2005, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by AG5678

Palmeiro is in some legal trouble now for making false statements to Congess.

AG5678

Not true, they have no evidence to support the idea that he was on steroids /had taken steroids when he had made the statements to congress. He failed the test after those statements (I beleive... or that was one seriously long drug test?).

**Seattle Junk** · 08-01-2005, 06:10 PM

Conseco injected Rafeal when he wasn't looking.

**dirtyvegas** · 08-02-2005, 07:03 AM

Originally Posted by QuieTSToRM33

for all we know ... his positive test could be for ephedra .... which is on the MLB banned substances list .... and YES ... he is still a hall of famer

I heard way differently on cnn tonight...They said he wont be in the hall of fame..Think about it ,, all these little kids know consecos book is 100% true..Now they have to make an example out of these fvckers..And for the ephedra..gimme a break,,he was banned 10 games..trust me they know exactly what substance hes taken and there not going to release it cause they dont want to escelade the situation any further..Now if ephedra came up positive in his test then they would have let everyone know exactly what hes taken casue ephedra is no fvckin big deal, and they wouldnt have suspended him 10 games.

so many people in here want steroids to be legal or taken more lightly when used in sports you want it to be ok dont you?

Then why do so many of you complain about consecos book, you should be glad, hes the only one that came out and started this whole thing..THE TRUTH BEHIND THE LIES.. i thought everyone wanted to hear the truth ,and now his book comes out and all i hear is hes a "rat bastard" and this is comming from people that havent even read the fvckin book....

For the people that dont know shit cause they havent read the book, STFU and quit your crying. who are you to make statments about sombodys book when you havent even read it pussies.

what the fvck do you care anyway about what consecos got to say about steroid and his team mates you act like it affects you directly AND PERSONALLY..HIS BOOK IS ONLY HELPING SPORTS AND STEROIDS., ISNT THIS WHAT YOU WANT?

~dv~

**Mesomorphyl** · 08-02-2005, 07:19 AM

How does conseco's book help with steroids ???

**dirtyvegas** · 08-02-2005, 07:25 AM

if you cannot figure that out then ide just be wasting my time tying to explain...

**Squatman51** · 08-02-2005, 07:29 AM

i guess conseco might have been right about the steroid users

**Mesomorphyl** · 08-02-2005, 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by dirtyvegas

if you cannot figure that out then ide just be wasting my time tying to explain...

Or you just do not have the ability to articulate your opinion.

**dirtyvegas** · 08-02-2005, 08:40 AM

No I am quite capeable to "articulate" all day with you. Its just I choose not to for such a ignorant question .I dont have the time (not flaming you but thats just the way i see it)....The more the public sees the truth behind sports and steroids , the more they get used to hearing about steroid and sports. Peroid...They might try and counteract this in many ways, but its for sure steroid will always play a role in sports no matter how hard they try.

It will not anytime make it legal to use in sports..But eventually will be taken not so harshly.

~DV~

**Mesomorphyl** · 08-02-2005, 08:55 AM

So, you had time to write all that yet refuse to say why his book "helps" steroids ? UH... ok.

**dirtyvegas** · 08-02-2005, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by dirtyvegas

.The more the public sees the truth behind sports and steroids , the more they get used to hearing about steroid and sports. Peroid...They might try and counteract this in many ways, but its for sure steroid will always play a role in sports no matter how hard they try.

It will not anytime make it legal to use in sports..But eventually will be taken not so harshly.

~DV~

dude...its sad for me to say this but, you really dont understand how to read do you, and dont understand the meaning of anything in this thread ..HU.?

~DV~

**Mesomorphyl** · 08-02-2005, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by dirtyvegas

dude...its sad for me to say this but, you really dont understand how to read do you, and dont understand the meaning of anything in this thread ..HU.?

~DV~

Sad for you? lol... Listen buddy, If you believe the media will get people use to steroids you are an intellectual retard... The masses will look at it as cheating. Why do you think our government is involved? Come on, read between the lines bro... You do not get it and it shows. So I am sad for you.

I also need to add that you think someone cannot understand your statements, then convey them in a clear manner. If you are just defending your position without merit, you seemingly are being a vendictive bitch(No flame just pointing out what it appears

)

**locutus** · 08-02-2005, 10:18 AM

Well there goes Palmero's Viagra Endorsements.

**Mesomorphyl** · 08-02-2005, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by locutus

Well there goes Palmero's Viagra Endorsements.

If he endorses testosterone maybe the public will accept it...

**dirtyvegas** · 08-02-2005, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by Mesomorphyl

Sad for you? lol... Listen buddy, If you believe the media will get people use to steroids you are an intellectual retard... The masses will look at it as cheating. Why do you think our government is involved? Come on, read between the lines bro... You do not get it and it shows. So I am sad for you.

I also need to add that you think someone cannot understand your statements, then convey them in a clear manner. If you are just defending your position without merit, you seemingly are being a vendictive bitch(No flame just pointing out what it appears

)

Bro ..your such a dumb piece of ignorant shit. and it clearly shows cause you insult half the people on this board. your post are shit AND UNIMPRESSIVE and you think everything is a joke to be made of.

IN SHORT YOU DONT BELONG HERE....I DONT SEE HOW YOUVE MADE IT THIS FAR

~dv~
later fag...

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