advise about low androgenic cycles!!!!!!!

**arnold_of_malta** · 09-08-2005, 04:40 PM

i wish to now a cycle which it will be low androgenic beacuse i am very prone to acne so i have to keep it low androgenic! so what should i take ? and for how long? and what does should i take?

thank you

**arnold_of_malta** · 09-08-2005, 04:41 PM

and what doses should i take*

**dirtyvegas** · 09-08-2005, 04:44 PM

winny, anavar , turanibol, masteron . do a search in the profiles section.
~dv~

**bignatt** · 09-08-2005, 04:47 PM

id go for Var

**arnold_of_malta** · 09-08-2005, 04:47 PM

i did a search but i wish some one with ecperence tell me what componds to stack and what dosage and for how long?

**chest6** · 09-08-2005, 04:49 PM

anavar ..masteron ..i dont know about winny

**arnold_of_malta** · 09-08-2005, 04:52 PM

masteron is bad for acne becuase its dht allready very bad for hair lose and acne i was reading !!!!!!

**100m champ** · 09-08-2005, 04:54 PM

I would go with the t-bol

**bignatt** · 09-08-2005, 04:54 PM

Go for var 20-40mg 8 weeks

**arnold_of_malta** · 09-08-2005, 04:56 PM

var stands for anavar ?????? but if i take 30mg daily for 8 weeks will i gain or not??? will i get cne and side effects????

**bignatt** · 09-08-2005, 04:59 PM

You will get gains do a search for Var only many have done the cycle

**RobLondon** · 09-08-2005, 05:21 PM

can anavar be taken by itself?

**bignatt** · 09-08-2005, 05:22 PM

Yes it can

**RobLondon** · 09-08-2005, 05:25 PM

cheers bignatt, would you say it was a pretty safe roid in terms of sides. Less chance of acne etc. Also i don't want to f**ck my sex drive up once i'm off.

**bignatt** · 09-08-2005, 05:27 PM

Alot of people have had good expeiriences with var only i doubt youll find many who knock it

**RobLondon** · 09-08-2005, 05:30 PM

it says on the anabolic review steroid effectivness chart that it's not the best for weight gain (only gave it one star) is that becuase the body doesn't retain so much fat/water?

Would you advise taking just var or just test? I don't fancy stacking and wanna keep dosages low.

**bignatt** · 09-08-2005, 05:34 PM

You could run just test but test is androgenic /anabolic

**powerliftmike** · 09-08-2005, 05:36 PM

take accutan or other perscription acne medicines. shower more and tan in the sun or UV lamp.

**bignatt** · 09-08-2005, 05:37 PM

I would also take no more than 400mg of test if you want to keep it low

**RobLondon** · 09-08-2005, 05:38 PM

yeah that's what i thought, sorry for all the questions, it's just that i always thought that the deca /dbol stack was always one of the "safer" options and now after reading this site it appears it's not.

So just to recap:

If i'm looking for a cycle thats low in androgenic , to lower chances of acne and still fairly easy to recover from after (so sex drive gets back to normal) then anavar is the one for me?

I don't want to be massive, i just want to make steady gains and still keep sides to a minimum.

**bignatt** · 09-08-2005, 05:39 PM

I would go for a var only in your situation

**RobLondon** · 09-08-2005, 05:45 PM

Thanks that's good advice. Everyone is different and you're saying this AAS fits my circumstances and my profile. I thought i knew alot about AAS, i did a whole project on them for my Sports Science diploma 6 years ago, but it seems times have changed and peoples knowledge is greater now. This site is the perfect place for people to seek out proper advice from real people with real experiences.

**powerliftmike** · 09-08-2005, 05:45 PM

Var (although I dont like it too much) and primo depot man. Winny really messes up your joints and would be more likely to cause acne and 'sexual problems' than var and primo depot.

**RobLondon** · 09-08-2005, 05:50 PM

Cool, so as far as var goes there's not too many problems on the sexual side? Can't find anavar in the profiles section, does it go under a different name?

**RobLondon** · 09-08-2005, 05:53 PM

is anavar more of a cutting up roid, like winny?

**bignatt** · 09-08-2005, 05:54 PM

Var will give you quality muscle that is very keepable

**RobLondon** · 09-08-2005, 06:00 PM

Var it is then. 20mg - 40mg 8 weeks, i'll take before and after photos and post them here once i'm done.

**bignatt** · 09-08-2005, 06:05 PM

Good luck

**RobLondon** · 09-08-2005, 06:41 PM

just done some research on anavar and it seems it's one of the safest AAS, i'm definitley gonna use this. No PCT is needed is it?

**powerliftmike** · 09-08-2005, 07:24 PM

Var by itself usually doesn't do anything. It is pretty safe stuff tho, and won't shut you down much. It is used for strength and cutting only, not mass/bodyweight gains. Its chemical name is oxandrolone, so look up that for more info if you cant find stuff with anavar .

**RobLondon** · 09-08-2005, 07:34 PM

thanks i checked up on it at another site and they gave it good reviews, i understand i won't grow much but will i still put on a bit of weight?

**Jsik98** · 09-08-2005, 09:23 PM

My advice for someone who wanted a low androgenic cycle would be to take
Sust at 500mgs per week with some deca at 400mg/week. Those two compounds are very safe and effective. You need to have some test in your cycle anyway you look at it b/c the sides and gains are worse without it. Sust has a lower androgenic rating than other test, and from personal experience I can tell you that I'm NOT breaking out any more than I usually do (only on my back) and I'm on the previously mentioned cycle right now. I'm also gyno prone and I'm not even taking an anit-estrogen! I take B6 for prolactin and that's it! I would recommend this cycle to anyone. Gains (mostly strength so far, but def some size too) are phenomenal and only 3 weeks in.

**Jsik98** · 09-08-2005, 09:26 PM

Don't get me wrong, anavar is the shit! It gets you really hard and strong and pretty vascular too. It's a great compound to add to a cycle for that finishing touch! I wouldn't take it by itself. Not b/c it's not strong enough, but it would be a waste IMO. At least stack it with test.

**bignatt** · 09-09-2005, 04:23 AM

Originally Posted by Jsik98

My advice for someone who wanted a low androgenic cycle would be to take
Sust at 500mgs per week with some deca at 400mg/week. Those two compounds are very safe and effective. You need to have some test in your cycle anyway you look at it b/c the sides and gains are worse without it. Sust has a lower androgenic rating than other test, and from personal experience I can tell you that I'm NOT breaking out any more than I usually do (only on my back) and I'm on the previously mentioned cycle right now. I'm also gyno prone and I'm not even taking an anit-estrogen! I take B6 for prolactin and that's it! I would recommend this cycle to anyone. Gains (mostly strength so far, but def some size too) are phenomenal and only 3 weeks in.

This is the worst low androgenic cycle i have ever seen

**longhorn814** · 09-09-2005, 07:09 AM

Originally Posted by arnold_of_malta

i wish to now a cycle which it will be low androgenic beacuse i am very prone to acne so i have to keep it low androgenic! so what should i take ? and for how long? and what does should i take?

thank you

dude, you just turned 18 3 months ago, the reason youre getting acne is b/c youre still developing as a man. For the fourth time now, you DO NOT need steroids to grow at your age!! You have already cycled 4 times, probably not correctly either, you are going to become the poster child for why teenagers should NOT take steroids.