Thread: Filtering Homebrew
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09-27-2005, 10:17 PM #1
Filtering Homebrew
Alright now everyone has tried the whatman filters.... kinda slow and semi sh1tty but whatever right.... now the bottle top filters are a step up from there but I tried them and I went through a whole lot of them... I cracked a bunch and then the filters ripped on a few more and so on and so on... it was a f@cking nightmare guys!!! and I still have a bunch of unfiltered test... well needlessly said I am unhappy with any of the filtering systems that I am aware of... .what is the next step up??? I plan on doing this for the next 30 years or so... so in the long run it is worth the investment to buy something that can actually DO THE DAMN JOB!!!! some kind of pump or machine or what??? I know there is something cuz QV and Denkall sure as hell don't sit down with bottle top filters!!! (they probably don't filter at all!!!) haha.... no really though.... let's get an answer here!
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09-27-2005, 10:21 PM #2
There is a thread buried in the lab forum telling how to make a filter pump.That's the next step and how it's done on a mass production type thing.
~Pinnacle~
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09-27-2005, 10:30 PM #3
I'm not mass producing but I want to do it conveniently without having to waste time... i mean.... this beats paying domestic prices any day! so how about you find that thread bro! haha... (maybe???)
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09-27-2005, 10:33 PM #4Originally Posted by 100%NATURAL-theGH
~Pinnacle~
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09-27-2005, 10:38 PM #5
ouch... no love pinnacle... we're supposed to be brothers in arms!!! hook it up or atleast give me some search criteria... it's the LEAST you can do!
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09-27-2005, 11:02 PM #6
Here you lazy bastard......
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ht=pump+filter
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ht=pump+filter
~pinnacle~
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09-27-2005, 11:28 PM #7
ive filtered with a titan .22 and had no problem except when i tightened it too tight and nothing would flow through and it took me about two syringes and 2 filters to figure out what i was doin wrong.
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09-28-2005, 12:57 AM #8
thanks mike i appreciate the input but I'm not filtering 1000CC of Test through Whatmans.. it just ISN'T practical..
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09-28-2005, 10:43 AM #9
its a good thumb workout haha
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09-28-2005, 10:48 AM #10
dont know if this helps you but here is a filter system it filters 200ml ..
http://store.cemproducts.com/stvafi150ml2.html
dv
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09-28-2005, 10:53 AM #11Originally Posted by dirtyvegas
~Pinnacle~
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09-28-2005, 11:03 AM #12
yeah sounds ok , but my question is how do you get the gear from the flask to the sterial vial without it getting unsterile again..?
anybody ever used these and have experience with em.?
dv
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09-28-2005, 11:14 AM #13Originally Posted by dirtyvegas
~Pinnacle~
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09-28-2005, 12:19 PM #14
well here is another thought...i dont know how good it could possibly be but ive been searching for a different technique..here is another system and its made of glass..
http://cgi.ebay.com/Filter-Flask-Buc...QQcmdZViewItem
i seen it on e-bay
also i put some pics of the setup do you think this could work guys.?
dvLast edited by dirtyvegas; 09-28-2005 at 12:44 PM.
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09-28-2005, 12:23 PM #15Originally Posted by dirtyvegas
~Pinnacle~
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09-28-2005, 12:42 PM #16
i dont know i e-mailed the dude on e-bay about it just a minute ago, when he gets back to me ill let you know..
the thing with the plastic ones are they crack under pressure, when filtering Oils...these are heavy glass, im assuming they wont crack as easily..
it might be possible to use / find another filter ,whichever 1 you would like to use with this, i donno well see when dude gets back to me about it.
I got all my beakers, stir rods, stoppers, and vials off e-bay hella cheap cant beat it.
dirtyvegas
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09-28-2005, 05:28 PM #17Originally Posted by 100%NATURAL-theGH
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...t=caulking+gun
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09-28-2005, 08:01 PM #18
yeah that method looks pretty good for the homebrewer that is making enough for personal use... I have an interest in a little bit more than that.... I play football and we are all tired of getting ripped off ya see... besides if something like what that guy showed me would work... that is pretty cheap really..
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09-29-2005, 11:46 AM #19Originally Posted by THEMOSTHATED
This is the standard method IMO, and works well, but takes alot of time..
Im looking for another method one thats sterile and productive at the same time..
dv
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09-29-2005, 10:59 PM #20
why are we SO concerned with sterility... haven't you read about how strong BA is??? i mean... assuming we filter to remove the majority of microscopic crap in it.... and we suck it up and inject into unsealed vials... it's still pretty fucking clean guys! seriously... what are the chances of getting an infection from this method??? i mean... personally i don't pick my nose and wipe it in my vials so i feel pretty safe... should i not?
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10-01-2005, 01:25 PM #21
hey how does this look guys???
http://www.macnanbio.com/index.asp?P...PROD&ProdID=35
now the paper is only .3-.5 so that poses a problem... where can you get better filtering paper at?? if I had .22 then I would be satisfied with this set up...
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10-01-2005, 01:33 PM #22
would this work for paper???
http://sargentwelch.com/product.asp_...ilter+Paper_E_
granged its 1um which is more than we need and would probably be a bitch... but still.... would it be ok?? or is that TOO much filtration?
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10-01-2005, 04:50 PM #23Originally Posted by 100%NATURAL-theGH
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10-01-2005, 04:52 PM #24Originally Posted by 100%NATURAL-theGH
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10-01-2005, 05:46 PM #25
yeah i figured it was too small... and yes I've used the vacuum filters and I was unimpressed.... I kept cracking them! I went through a dozen of them when I only needed 3! and the fliters clogged and yeah.. then they tore... it fucking SUCKED.. I need to look into something new... I sure wish they made BIG whatmans or something... I'm not sure what I'm going to do but I'll keep trying! so if I had .22um paper do you think the system I linked to above would work guys?
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10-01-2005, 06:06 PM #26
I sort of like this one ..the one Vegas posted above.
Cheap and effective.The pump is cheap too.
http://store.cemproducts.com/stvafi150ml2.html
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10-01-2005, 11:20 PM #27Originally Posted by Pinnacle
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10-01-2005, 11:50 PM #28
Price isn't really that bad when you think about how much it will filter. Only 10$ for every 150ml.
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10-02-2005, 03:56 AM #29
I like those but you could filter much faster and with much more quantity if you used the glass 1000ml flask in the one I wanted to use... I mean.. that glass isn't going to crack like the one in the link... my filters just fell apart guys.. really stressed me out!
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10-02-2005, 09:45 AM #30
Damn 1000ml.. The WHOLE football team will be set for A LONG time.
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10-02-2005, 09:50 AM #31Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
Cheerleaders,Water boy,Team mascot,Parking attendant.....
~Pinnacle~
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10-02-2005, 09:51 AM #32Originally Posted by Pinnacle
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10-02-2005, 11:32 AM #33
1000mL of Test Prop and 1000mL of Tren Ace???? for 15 guys??? how far does that really go now? My line-men are already fat.... no need to let them put on any more weight!
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10-02-2005, 01:41 PM #34
They need more LBM and less BF so yes Tren could be a Plus for them with the right diet, problem is they all eat like shit probably. Pizza and beer.
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10-02-2005, 01:48 PM #35
So when are try outs for this team anyway?
~Pinnacle~
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10-02-2005, 03:31 PM #36Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
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10-02-2005, 03:34 PM #37Originally Posted by Drummerboy
~Pinnacle~
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10-02-2005, 04:13 PM #38
alright back to topic... can I use that stupid system I have shown.... anyone have any idea where i could find the correct kind of paper for it?? let's do some brainstorming here and get something going that might actually benefit all of us! bottle top filtering is relatively new for mainstream homebrewing but although it's effective it has it's flaws and it's not exactly cheap persay.. maybe we can revolutionize the whole filtering process! Let's do this ladies..
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10-02-2005, 04:16 PM #39
The one Vega posted seems good, I might try it. You can get everything for under 100$.
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10-02-2005, 04:56 PM #40Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
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