Deca Vs Eq

**manc** · 10-01-2005, 03:11 PM

Can AnY One LINK Me To A Thread Concerning This As Im Sure Its Been Asked A Billion Times..thanks In Advance

**shortie** · 10-01-2005, 03:15 PM

It is all personal preference, but there is no saying you have to choose, you can run them together, they are not as identical as they have always been given credit for.
Having said that, I like deca , mostly because of it's positive effects on joints.

**manc** · 10-01-2005, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by shortie

It is all personal preference, but there is no saying you have to choose, you can run them together, they are not as identical as they have always been given credit for.
Having said that, I like deca, mostly because of it's positive effects on joints.

THANKS..so eq offers no joint relief at all?

**vein-x** · 10-01-2005, 03:20 PM

Well I hate to be a dick and not literally answer your question, but you can start here:

*Deca Information*
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=131230
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catdeca.htm

*EQ Information*
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=167741
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catequi.htm

Both compare the two... check it out. Hope that helps.

**bignatt** · 10-01-2005, 03:21 PM

i think EQ is better you get more keepable gains also more lean gains

**shortie** · 10-01-2005, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by manc

THANKS..so eq offers no joint relief at all?

EQ offers leaner looking less watery gains, so less water retention means less fluid in the joints so less protection. But that's not altogether bad, lean musuclar gains are what it's all about. I would not say that EQ is going to dry you up like winny and cause you joint pain, but it just doesn't retain the water that deca does.

**manc** · 10-01-2005, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by vein-x

Well I hate to be a dick and not literally answer your question, but you can start here:

*Deca Information*
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=131230
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catdeca.htm

*EQ Information*
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=167741
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catequi.htm

Both compare the two... check it out. Hope that helps.

excellent reading..thanks

**Booz** · 10-01-2005, 04:12 PM

i tend to prefer the eq rather than deca ,you will put more size on with the deca quicker,the eq tends to act more slowly but the gains are more solid and vascular,i pers dont like the bloaty look you can get with deca.but thats just my opinion!

**Infidel** · 10-01-2005, 04:47 PM

Consider this...bigger and puffy for a few months with Deca or quality lean gains that you keep with EQ

**MASTERDBOL** · 10-01-2005, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by Infidel

Consider this...bigger and puffy for a few months with Deca or quality lean gains that you keep with EQ

that statement isnt true bro. i've used deca for years with very little sides. and i've never had a problem keeping gains with deca. it all depends on what your body likes. some will be more receptive to deca, and some to eq. just like the difference between someone using test cyp or test e. one may like cyp and another may like enan.

***SPIKE*** · 10-01-2005, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by MASTERDBOL

that statement isnt true bro. i've used deca for years with very little sides. and i've never had a problem keeping gains with deca. it all depends on what your body likes. some will be more receptive to deca, and some to eq. just like the difference between someone using test cyp or test e. one may like cyp and another may like enan.

I totally agree with this. Its easy to read somethign on paper on what results one "should" get. Then when it comes down to it, variations will occur from one individual to another.

Just like Master I have gotten great gains with Deca . This time around I am trying EQ for the first time. From what I've heard and read it should work well...................

**Pinnacle** · 10-01-2005, 07:56 PM

I don't know about any of you guys,but EQ dries my joints out.I get joint issues just as those with Winny.I'm running it right now,but I'm also running a 100 mgs of Deca .

~Pinnacle~

**powerliftmike** · 10-01-2005, 08:17 PM

There are different and so you should try both and see which one you like better. Also, can you please change your avatar for the sake of those that are on test right now

**manc** · 10-02-2005, 12:50 AM

Originally Posted by powerliftmike

There are different and so you should try both and see which one you like better. Also, can you please change your avatar for the sake of those that are on test right now

sorry,but i love her
im now indesicive of which one.could i do 250mg(BD decabol)and 200mg(BD boldabol) weekly.or should i stick with one alone.taking test e 500mg (14wks) an 100mg drol(4wks)then switchin to Dbol 30mg(4wks?).thanks everyone

**stupidhippo** · 10-02-2005, 01:33 AM

Originally Posted by vein-x

Well I hate to be a dick and not literally answer your question, but you can start here:

*Deca Information*
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=131230
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catdeca.htm

*EQ Information*
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=167741
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catequi.htm

Both compare the two... check it out. Hope that helps.

man lots of conflicting information on those links..

**THEjuiceISloose73** · 10-02-2005, 02:55 AM

also the leaner gains of eq might be something a bigger guy would like but for the little guy who is vascular like me and just wants as much mass and size as possible from his cycle and can shed off and get that vascularity later after the cycle then deca might be ur choice ur body ur preference
try em both and pick one or maybe when ur setting different goals choose one both are great

***SPIKE*** · 10-02-2005, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by manc

sorry,but i love her
im now indesicive of which one.could i do 250mg(BD decabol)and 200mg(BD boldabol) weekly.or should i stick with one alone.taking test e 500mg (14wks) an 100mg drol(4wks)then switchin to Dbol 30mg(4wks?).thanks everyone

Dude you're going to do 4 weeks of Drol then 4 weeks fo D-bol?? OUCH!! Make sure you have someone walking with you at all times with a bucket to catch your liver if you shit it out...............

If I were you I would do this:
Weeks1-14------------->Test E 500mgs
Weeks1-14------------->EQ 500mgs
Weeks1-4-------------->Pick either drol or D-bol but never the 2.

I know that you might say that since you're not running the 2 orals at the same time you should be fine. But thats a lot of hurting on your body. Especailly 100mgs of Drol.

Whats your cycle experience?? Do you feel comfortable running all of this???

**manc** · 10-02-2005, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by Jayhova16

Dude you're going to do 4 weeks of Drol then 4 weeks fo D-bol?? OUCH!! Make sure you have someone walking with you at all times with a bucket to catch your liver if you shit it out...............

If I were you I would do this:
Weeks1-14------------->Test E 500mgs
Weeks1-14------------->EQ 500mgs
Weeks1-4-------------->Pick either drol or D-bol but never the 2.

I know that you might say that since you're not running the 2 orals at the same time you should be fine. But thats a lot of hurting on your body. Especailly 100mgs of Drol.

Whats your cycle experience?? Do you feel comfortable running all of this???

thanks jay..im sure i have been informed in the past to switch to the weaker dbol after 4 wks. i must be mistaken.thanks for pointing it out.i have been cycling for last couple of years.im more or less 200lb.could i not do dbol for last few weeks?

**100%NATURAL-theGH** · 10-02-2005, 11:52 AM

if your going to do 2 orals in the same cycle do D-rol the first five... then take off the middle... and take the oral the last 5 weeks including the 2-3 weeks leading up to your PCT... that would be best in my opinion! Good Luck

**manc** · 10-02-2005, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by Jayhova16

Dude you're going to do 4 weeks of Drol then 4 weeks fo D-bol?? OUCH!! Make sure you have someone walking with you at all times with a bucket to catch your liver if you shit it out...............

If I were you I would do this:
Weeks1-14------------->Test E 500mgs
Weeks1-14------------->EQ 500mgs
Weeks1-4-------------->Pick either drol or D-bol but never the 2.

I know that you might say that since you're not running the 2 orals at the same time you should be fine. But thats a lot of hurting on your body. Especailly 100mgs of Drol.

Whats your cycle experience?? Do you feel comfortable running all of this???

can i just say that in ANOBOLICS 2004 on page 36 it tells of a study involving 31 men aged 65 to 80 taking 50mg-100mg anadrol daily for 12 wks with no worrying reports on liver enzymes(nothing dramatic)........any comments anyone?

**Pinnacle** · 10-02-2005, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by manc

can i just say that in ANOBOLICS 2004 on page 36 it tells of a study involving 31 men aged 65 to 80 taking 50mg-100mg anadrol daily for 12 wks with no worrying reports on liver enzymes(nothing dramatic)........any comments anyone?

Only comment I can make is I've ran Drol for 10 weeks at 200 mgs ED and 2 weeks later had my liver enzymes checked.Nothing abnormal showed up.The liver is far more forgiving than most believe.Granted,safety is the primary objective on these boards,but Ppl saying only to run Dbol for 4 weeks or your liver will fall out is just utter nonsense.

~Pinnacle~

BG · 10-02-2005, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by bignatt

i think EQ is better you get more keepable gains also more lean gains

I agree, you just have to run it at a decently high dose and for a good length of time. Ive been running it at 600mg a week, on week 15 and are getting great results.

**manc** · 10-02-2005, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

Only comment I can make is I've ran Drol for 10 weeks at 200 mgs ED and 2 weeks later had my liver enzymes checked.Nothing abnormal showed up.The liver is far more forgiving than most believe.Granted,safety is the primary objective on these boards,but Ppl saying only to run Dbol for 4 weeks or your liver will fall out is just utter nonsense.

~Pinnacle~

i appreciate your comment...and can i just say,some of the funny things you say here make me laugh my head of sometimes.thanks for the advice .
ps
am i good to switch to dbol?

**manc** · 10-02-2005, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by BigGuns101

I agree, you just have to run it at a decently high dose and for a good length of time. Ive been running it at 600mg a week, on week 15 and are getting great results.

how long you plan to run it..test alongside?

**Pinnacle** · 10-02-2005, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by manc

i appreciate your comment...and can i just say,some of the funny things you say here make me laugh my head of sometimes.thanks for the advice .
ps
am i good to switch to dbol?

You can make the switch over.Since you're running the cycle for 14 weeks,why not take a short break between the Drol and Dbol ? 2-3 week break would be sufficient.

~Pinnacle~

BG · 10-02-2005, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by manc

how long you plan to run it..test alongside?

Test at 750 with it, probably 20 weeks, eq is still getting better week by week, going to feel it out and go by that, I take hcg evry4th day for two weeks then two weeks off.I just started 7 weeks of var added in also.

**manc** · 10-02-2005, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by BigGuns101

Test at 750 with it, probably 20 weeks, eq is still getting better week by week, going to feel it out and go by that, I take hcg evry4th day for two weeks then two weeks off.I just started 7 weeks of var added in also.

wow! wish i could afford it

how much you gained up to now.and has the eq boosted your appetite like it supposed to?

**manc** · 10-02-2005, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by BigGuns101

Test at 750 with it, probably 20 weeks, eq is still getting better week by week, going to feel it out and go by that, I take hcg evry4th day for two weeks then two weeks off.I just started 7 weeks of var added in also.

when do you start to add hcg (week?)..how much? no nut shrinkage?

**100%NATURAL-theGH** · 10-02-2005, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

You can make the switch over.Since you're running the cycle for 14 weeks,why not take a short break between the Drol and Dbol ? 2-3 week break would be sufficient.

~Pinnacle~

Like i had said.... why don't you take a break and run it at the end of your cycle including the 2 weeks that you won't be taking any Test or EQ so you can have AS right up untill your PCT... this makes the most sense!

**manc** · 10-02-2005, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by 100%NATURAL-theGH

Like i had said.... why don't you take a break and run it at the end of your cycle including the 2 weeks that you won't be taking any Test or EQ so you can have AS right up untill your PCT... this makes the most sense!

it does..thanks 100%nat..

**100%NATURAL-theGH** · 10-02-2005, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by manc

it does..thanks 100%nat..

no problemo.. let's get beefy!

***SPIKE*** · 10-02-2005, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

The liver is far more forgiving than most believe.

~Pinnacle~

There you go you said it right there!!!!

I get checked frequently. The last time I got checked I was running a pretty intense cycle along side 60mgs of Accutane. I was getting checked out once a month every month for 5 months and the tests were right on point!!!!

The human liver has an incredible ability to regerate new cells and cleanse itself. I can bet any money that if a person eats well, and cycles here and there, that they will be much healthier than someone who eats like shit, parties, and doesnt juice.
Theres only so much the human liver can take, a little stress cycled is 99.9%harmless with the proper precautions. Its when the combination of drinking, heavy cycling, partying, whatever the case may be. That really puts people in harms way.

As far as people saying that 100mgs of Drol will ruin you, then thats overkill. When I first thought that you were going to run drol @100mgs then D-bol with no break I was concerned. Just like everyone said, if you take a break you'll be fine. Wont hurt to get checked out every oncein a while too.

Best of Luck!!

**Pinnacle** · 10-02-2005, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by Jayhova16

There you go you said it right there!!!!

I get checked frequently. The last time I got checked I was running a pretty intense cycle along side 60mgs of Accutane. I was getting checked out once a month every month for 5 months and the tests were right on point!!!!

The human liver has an incredible ability to regerate new cells and cleanse itself. I can bet any money that if a person eats well, and cycles here and there, that they will be much healthier than someone who eats like shit, parties, and doesnt juice.
Theres only so much the human liver can take, a little stress cycled is 99.9%harmless with the proper precautions. Its when the combination of drinking, heavy cycling, partying, whatever the case may be. That really puts people in harms way.

As far as people saying that 100mgs of Drol will ruin you, then thats overkill. When I first thought that you were going to run drol @100mgs then D-bol with no break I was concerned. Just like everyone said, if you take a break you'll be fine. Wont hurt to get checked out every oncein a while too.

Best of Luck!!

...........

~Pinnacle~

**qw1ck2** · 10-02-2005, 07:55 PM

i did a deca only cycle and had 22lbs of solid gain with about 115 lbs increase max on bench (before my cycle i was weak as hell, also its not smart to do a deca only for your 1st cycle, but i did =/)