What's a good starter?

[digisekt]

Just wondering if anyone has any recs on a good starter roid. I'm 30 and I just started bodybuilding about 3 years ago. The only supps I ever use is Creatine, Whey, Glut, and multi vitamins. I'm a slow gainer so, I'm getting bored with slow results. I'm not big on the idea of injectables or high costs. So, I guess the oral stuff would be the direction I want to go. Please humor me cause I'm a newbie with no idea where or how to start.

Any input would be helpful.

Remember, even something with just an ounce of effectivness should suffice. I would be happy if it aided just a little bit.

Thanks

[Tapout]

dbol or winny
these wont produce great gains without an injectable but better than nothing
test,deca or eq are injectables that work great with the orals

[RON]

Originally posted by digisekt
I'm not big on the idea of injectables or high costs.

If you don't like needles then you shouldn't use steroids . At 30 bro test will do wonders for you. Honestly get yourself some 23 or 25 ga pins and you won't even feel it.

[Ajax]

RON's dead on. Testosterone Enathate or Testosterone Cypionate are great basic steroids --and even better for guys who are getting older & their natural testosterone levels are dropping. But they requirte injections which raises the 'barrier to entry' for most people because they percieve injecting as too radical of a step. (It's really not though, keep reading and you'll start to feel more comfortable with the idea!)

First things first: orals are the most toxic steroids and are generally the worst for your system. (Injectables are generally safer.)

If you do choose orals:

Dianabol : fairly cheap, good gains in size, but you can also lose much of the gains post cycle.
Winny/Winstrol /Stanzolol: gains in strength & hardness, not much size. Good at keeping gains post-cycle.
Anavar : Excellent strength gains, minimal to no size gains. Good at keeping gains post-cycle.
Anadrol : to toxic for a beginner, skip it.
Andriol : not effective, skip it.
Others: not worht mentioning.

Stick around & read. Most people decide to go injectable after learning all the facts.

[digisekt]

Thanks for the helpful input.

I'm sure I will eventually go the needle route and by the way it sounds I should use test at my age. Checking out your recommendations and other threads allot of other guys use winny. So, Maybe I'll give that a try first. I know how my mind works so, I'm sure I'll want the bigger and better stuff as time progresses.

[Kaz]

Excellent post by Ajax there - Bang on the money!

[ripped_82]

And if your worried about high cost bro, injectables are cheaper.

[arthurb999]

You get it from your local steriod dealer. Disregard any PM's you may get; chances are, they are from people trying to scam you. You should read the board rules.

If you want to do an oral only cycle, perhaps anavar and creatine cycle would be a good choice.

[Full Intensity]

Brother, take your time, and read the rules. Don't post openly asking for sources. Spend enough time around here and i'm sure u'll find the info you need to find a good source.

[digisekt]

I see where your comming from (Intensity). I should be more careful.

[Full Intensity]

Live and learn. You're a newbie, gotta be nice at first LOL

[arthurb999]

Hey FI, why does it say you edited my post when you didn't?

[Full Intensity]

I took out the quote, b/c thats what i deleted from digisekt's actual thread.

[arthurb999]

Originally posted by Full Intensity
I took out the quote, b/c thats what i deleted from digisekt's actual thread.

Oh yea... sorry about that.