Winter Bulk

**lil swoll** · 10-17-2005, 03:10 PM

Looking for your thoughts on my next cycle for the winter. Any comments welcome.

Wk.1-10 Test E 300mgs wk.
Wk.1-8 Tren A 300mgs wk.
Wk.9-12 T-bol 40mgs ED
Wk.1-12 Letro .5mgs ED
Wk.13-16 PCT Clomid 100mgs ED
Nolva 40mgs ED

Stats: 5'8 170

Previous Cycles

1st
Deca 300 mgs a week for 8 weeks and tbol

2nd
Tren 75mgs EOD

**Presidential Muscle** · 10-17-2005, 03:16 PM

Hey i am doing 200mg Cyp a week, have you had good Gains from 300mg, i am not sure on my last cycle how much i done.

**lil swoll** · 10-17-2005, 03:24 PM

Never done test before. This will be my first try. Alwaya been to scared of test cause im very estrogen sensitive(dont want bitch tits). But i got some letro so im willing to give it a try.

**powerliftmike** · 10-17-2005, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by lil swoll

Never done test before. This will be my first try. Alwaya been to scared of test cause im very estrogen sensitive(dont want bitch tits). But i got some letro so im willing to give it a try.

If you want a off-season mass stack, which I think you do, you are gonna need to have AASs that convert to estrogen. Nolva with Proviron or arimidex will keep it in check and keep you from being bloated. I would probably up test e dosage to 500mg, drop tren , and kickstart with 25mg dbol for 3 weeks. Overall your cycle isn't too bad tho.

**Swifto** · 10-17-2005, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by lil swoll

Looking for your thoughts on my next cycle for the winter. Any comments welcome.

Wk.1-10 Test E 300mgs wk.
Wk.1-8 Tren A 300mgs wk.
Wk.9-12 T-bol 40mgs ED
Wk.1-12 Letro .5mgs ED
Wk.13-16 PCT Clomid 100mgs ED
Nolva 40mgs ED

Stats: 5'8 170

Previous Cycles

1st
Deca 300 mgs a week for 8 weeks and tbol

2nd
Tren 75mgs EOD

Extend the Test to 12 or 14 weeks to get maximum benifits from it. I'm not one for 10 week cycles. It also needs to be bumped up to 500mg/wk.

The Tbol needs to be bumped also, to 50-60mg/ED. It also needs running for a minimum of 4-6 weeks. 6 weeks should give the desired results.

The Tren A I'd run at 50-75mg/ED, see how gains/sides compare.

Lastly, an idea would be to run the Clomid 100mg/ED for 2 weeks then possibly taper down to 50mg/ED for the final week. See how your sex drive compares.

**lil swoll** · 10-17-2005, 07:24 PM

Thanks for the comments. The thing with the test is i want to keep low sences its my first time with it and i get gyno pretty damn easy. I also havent decided to run the tbol as a jumpstart or at the end to soldify gains and to bridge the two week peroid between test e and PCT. WHats your guys thoughts on that?

**lil swoll** · 10-17-2005, 07:26 PM

Also if I was to subsitute Prop for test e could i get good results from only 8 weeks?

**lil swoll** · 10-18-2005, 02:08 PM

anybody?

**tvd220** · 10-18-2005, 10:53 PM

8 weeks is a very short cycle, hardly worth it, imo. Test prop will get you "on" quicker and produce quicker results though. I would jump start you cycle with test prop 50mg/ED for week 1-4
and Test E 300mg per week 1-12
You are doing a low dose cycle, so you could estend it to a longer period.
Personally I have had better, more consistant results from low dose, long cycles.

**chest6** · 10-18-2005, 10:57 PM

you could run the prop for 10 and the tren for 8..that wouldnt be bad at all. Since you'll be sticking yourself ED I dont think an extra 14 shots would be too much.