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    TEST-Prop + EQ stack question..

    1) for how long and @ what doses should i run test-prop if im gonna stack it with EQ @ 400mg/EW for 12 weeks?
    2) can i stack test-en with these two components ? if yes for how long and @ what doses ?

    goals : gain mass quality

    30 / 6 feet / 115kg
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    depends really on how bad ed shots are gonna be for you. first, you should always run test higher than your other compounds. So, if you are doing eq @ 400mg/wk, you should be taking 75mg/ed of prop. If you want to run test e, you would probably be better off using that for the whole cycle. Just shoot the eq and test e twice a week. Also, i would throw in the prop for about 4wks to jumpstart the cycle being that the test e takes 4-6 wks to "kick in". Also run the eq longer. That generally takes a good 8-9wks to "kick in". Your cycle should look like this:

    test prop @ 50mg/ed wks 1-4
    test e @ 500mg/wk wks 1-15
    eq @ 400mg/wk wks 1-14

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnx3k
    depends really on how bad ed shots are gonna be for you. first, you should always run test higher than your other compounds. So, if you are doing eq @ 400mg/wk, you should be taking 75mg/ed of prop. If you want to run test e, you would probably be better off using that for the whole cycle. Just shoot the eq and test e twice a week. Also, i would throw in the prop for about 4wks to jumpstart the cycle being that the test e takes 4-6 wks to "kick in". Also run the eq longer. That generally takes a good 8-9wks to "kick in". Your cycle should look like this:

    test prop @ 50mg/ed wks 1-4
    test e @ 500mg/wk wks 1-15
    eq @ 400mg/wk wks 1-14
    actually my 3rd cycle was [email protected]/EW + [email protected]/EW for 5 weeks and i loved the results , gained 7,5kg = 20Lps

    this cycle im planning is my 4th , and im gonna Prop with it for more quality mass gaining

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    Do you have the Enan or are you asking if you can add it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMudMan
    Do you have the Enan or are you asking if you can add it?
    i do have it , now i know that i can stack them both with eq but for how long and @ what doses to score my goals !

    2nd i may have tren -AC but im not so sure if its available now but if i have it im thinking of stack it to in weeks 8-14, would that be a bad idea ?

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    i would think you'd be ok with the tren . just make sure you run the test higher. tren is known for shutitng ppl down hard/quick. so def keep it lower than your test. why dont you run the prop at the begining, and then run it at the end along with the tren?

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    I wouldn't run EQ no less then 600mg/wk and no less then 12 weeks. I have ran EQ in all but one of my cycles and I ahve seen better results running it higher and longer.


    1 - 4 Prop 75mg ED
    1 - 13 Enan 750mg /wk
    1 - 12 EQ 600mg /wk
    14 - 15 Prop 100mg ED
    1 - 13 Letro .5mg ED
    13 - 15 Nolva 20mg ED
    13 - 15 L-dex .25mg ED

    Start PCT 3 days after last Prop injection
    Day 1 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnx3k
    i would think you'd be ok with the tren. just make sure you run the test higher. tren is known for shutitng ppl down hard/quick. so def keep it lower than your test. why dont you run the prop at the begining, and then run it at the end along with the tren?
    can u drop an example?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steroider
    can u drop an example?
    I wouldn't add the tren ...... you have enough in that cycle as is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMudMan
    I wouldn't run EQ no less then 600mg/wk and no less then 12 weeks. I have ran EQ in all but one of my cycles and I ahve seen better results running it higher and longer.


    1 - 4 Prop 75mg ED
    1 - 13 Enan 750mg /wk
    1 - 12 EQ 600mg /wk
    14 - 15 Prop 100mg ED
    1 - 13 Letro .5mg ED
    13 - 15 Nolva 20mg ED
    13 - 15 L-dex .25mg ED

    Start PCT 3 days after last Prop injection
    Day 1 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex

    i cycled Enan @ 500mg/EW and i had good results and i know i suld raise Enan if im gonna raise EQ to 600mg/EW , but im not interested with raising the doses that high while i had a good results with lowre doses

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steroider
    i cycled Enan @ 500mg/EW and i had good results and i know i suld raise Enan if im gonna raise EQ to 600mg/EW , but im not interested with raising the doses that high while i had a good results with lowre doses
    Lower the Enan to 600 and then the prop at the end to 75mg............ but if your running EQ that would be the minimum

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    i think i have to mention this is my 4th cycle and my 2nd bulking

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMudMan
    Lower the Enan to 600 and then the prop at the end to 75mg............ but if your running EQ that would be the minimum
    so u suggest to run
    1-15 [email protected]/EW
    1-14 [email protected]/mg/EW
    1-15 [email protected]/ED

    correct me if im wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steroider
    so u suggest to run
    1-15 [email protected]/EW
    1-14 [email protected]/mg/EW
    1-15 [email protected]/ED

    correct me if im wrong
    Yes..... you can still run the prop week 1 - 4 to get the cycle going a little faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMudMan
    Yes..... you can still run the prop week 1 - 4 to get the cycle going a little faster.
    i think ill go with what u first suggested

    1 - 4 Prop 75mg ED
    1 - 13 Enan 750mg /wk
    1 - 12 EQ 600mg /wk
    14 - 15 Prop 100mg ED
    1 - 13 Letro .5mg ED
    13 - 15 Nolva 20mg ED
    13 - 15 L-dex .25mg ED

    Start PCT 3 days after last Prop injection
    Day 1 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex

    much easyer , next question how can i stack tren -AC ( first time using ) with this cycle , ( planning to run [email protected]/ED ) and for how long?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steroider
    i think ill go with what u first suggested

    1 - 4 Prop 75mg ED
    1 - 13 Enan 750mg /wk
    1 - 12 EQ 600mg /wk
    14 - 15 Prop 100mg ED
    1 - 13 Letro .5mg ED
    13 - 15 Nolva 20mg ED
    13 - 15 L-dex .25mg ED

    Start PCT 3 days after last Prop injection
    Day 1 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex

    much easyer , next question how can i stack tren-AC ( first time using ) with this cycle , ( planning to run [email protected]/ED ) and for how long?

    You can add it 1 - 12

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMudMan
    You can add it 1 - 12
    ed shot ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steroider
    ed shot ?
    Yep..... also you will want to add 200mg of vitamin B6 ED through the cycle and PCT

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMudMan
    Yep..... also you will want to add 200mg of vitamin B6 ED through the cycle and PCT
    1 - 13 Letro .5mg ED
    13 - 15 Nolva 20mg ED
    13 - 15 L-dex .25mg ED

    do i need HCG also ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steroider
    1 - 13 Letro .5mg ED
    13 - 15 Nolva 20mg ED
    13 - 15 L-dex .25mg ED

    do i need HCG also ?
    Would be wise to..... Run it through the cycle at 500iu 2 times per week 1 week out from PCT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMudMan
    Would be wise to..... Run it through the cycle at 500iu 2 times per week 1 week out from PCT.
    so i sould stop HCG @ week 14 ?

    and shold i have B-6 all way with the cycle ( 1-15 )?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steroider
    so i sould stop HCG @ week 14 ?

    and shold i have B-6 all way with the cycle ( 1-15 )?
    Yes..
    and yes... also through PCT

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMudMan
    Yes..
    and yes... also through PCT

    thanx for the help bro ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMudMan
    Would be wise to..... Run it through the cycle at 500iu 2 times per week 1 week out from PCT.
    so i run HCG weeks (1-14 ) 1000iu/week ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steroider
    so i run HCG weeks (1-14 ) 1000iu/week ?
    Yep......... I would run the HCG from the first week of the cycle. I would also split the doses up 500iu 2x per week so it would = 10000iu's total.

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    thanks for the help bro

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