Would this be sufficient for a fist cycle?

**JeStEr879** · 05-13-2002, 09:45 AM

Whats up guys,
I am about to start my journey into the wonderful world of AS. I am 21 5'10" 180lbs. I have been working out for 5 years now. I was around 165 - 170 when I started. My goal is to attain about 10lbs of "Good weight" LBM. I have been following a strict diet for the last 2 months, and have been hitting the gym 5 days on 2 off. I was thinking of an EQ only cycle, but from what I have been reading, it isn't advised. However, like I said earlier, I am really not looking for any huge gains in mass. I have been on this site for the last 2 months researching the posts like a Mofo so I am pretty informed on the subject. Just wanted to hear from some people who may have wanted the same goals I do when they first started off. Thanks,
J.P

**jcshack** · 05-13-2002, 09:48 AM

woh, better watch the "fist" cycle. I would suggest a deca only cycle as a first one. Always did great for my buddies who first started AS.

**JeStEr879** · 05-13-2002, 10:04 AM

BTW here is the ammunition I have available to me:

Anadrol
t200/400
Test Cyp/enan
Winny 50mgs/100mgs|ml
Test Suspension
Sust
D-Bol 10mgs.
Clenbuterol
Clomid
EQ 200mgs
Deca 200/300

My main concern is Quality keepable gains. I would be happy with just 10 more lbs. Not concerned with size as much as looks. Thanks.

**JeStEr879** · 05-13-2002, 10:13 AM

I was thinking of getting 2 bottles of EQ (200mg/ml).

1-10 weeks EQ400mgs.
13-15 weeks clomid

What would I expect to gain from this. Thanks.

**Havesome77** · 05-13-2002, 10:18 AM

If I were u I would consider:

Weeks 1-8 250mg sustanon
Weeks 1-8 200mg Deca or EQ
Start Clomid Week 11
Start Clenbuterol Week 11 (2 weeks on 2weeks off)

Just my 2 cents... Good luck bro

**big N** · 05-13-2002, 10:25 AM

bro this is what id do if ur doing eq might aswell do some test with eq .like some enethate 200.u cant go balls out but u aslo gotta mek it count since it will be ur first u wanna go with moderate doses and see how the receptorsreact to it.
1-8 400mg eq,
1-8 300 -400 mg enethate.
but if ur bot feeling the test definately need to stack it with some thing
1-8 400 eq
6-10 50 mg winn ed(sisnce ur first u can get away eod)wait a week after us last shot of winn and start ur clomid.

**JeStEr879** · 05-13-2002, 10:43 AM

Thanks guys I really appreciate the feedback. Any more suggestions?

Hmmmm....

Would 200mgs of test and 400mgs of EQ ran for 10 weeks be enough for what my goals are? Thanks

**big N** · 05-13-2002, 05:55 PM

bro do one of the ones on top that i posted if u train and eat right u will see good slid gains with low water retention and u will definately achieve your goals.