Cycle Help...Please!

**Jray1der** · 12-14-2005, 06:25 PM

Would it be a good ideal to run Anadrol for the first 4 weeks of this cycle at between 100-200mg's. I know about the bloat, but what can I take to reduce the bloat so I can be really solid and defined? Thanks guys for any input.
wks 1-14 Test Prop 100mg ed
wks 4-12 Tren A 80mg ed
wks 1-12 EQ 500mg ew
wks 1-4 Halo 25mg ed
wks 9-14 Winstrol 50mg ed

**TheMudMan** · 12-14-2005, 06:35 PM

This cycle is a death trap.......

What is your cycle history, and age?

**Jray1der** · 12-14-2005, 06:47 PM

LOL, you sure make a guy feel great MudMan. Age 32, 3rd cycle,Last cycle was similar to this one but with a few different additions. Like the Halo, Win, Anadrol possiblity. Shape it up for me and gimme some recommendations, I am not stubborn at all so if it sounds great and is logical, I'm for it.

Originally Posted by TheMudMan

This cycle is a death trap.......

What is your cycle history, and age?

**Xtralarg** · 12-14-2005, 06:58 PM

Way to much for a 3rd cycle,you can still grow from basic ones.....no need for all them compounds ...........

**Jray1der** · 12-14-2005, 07:10 PM

Here's the cycle. Its a little changed as far as dosage and time frame. Last cycle, i had no problems with. I ran Test Prop, Tren Ace, EQ.
Now, I'm thinking about:
wks. 1-4 Anadrol 100mg ed
wks 1-14 Test Prop 120mg ed
wks 1-12 EQ 300mg e3.5d
wks 4-12 Tren Ace 80mg ed
wks 9-14 Win (Inject) 50mg ed
wks 10-14 Halo 25mg ed
Now so far, I have 2 people saying basically Bad Ideal, and I posted this cycle earlier and guys are saying more positive things, anyone else? If you guys can fine tune it for me and make a better solution, please feel free, I'm accepting all critiques. I am sure this will help me learn more with you guys' input.

**TheMudMan** · 12-14-2005, 07:43 PM

Here are a few suggestions:

wks 1-15 Test Prop 100mg ed
wks 1-12 Tren A 50mg ed
wks 1-12 EQ 600mg ew

wks 1-4 Halo 25mg ed
wks 1-14 Test Prop 100mg ed
wks 4-12 Tren A 50mg ed
wks 1-12 EQ 600mg ew

wks 1-4 Halo 25mg ed
wks 1-14 Test Prop 100mg ed
wks 1-12 Tren A 50mg ed
wks 9-14 Winstrol 50mg ed

For anti-e I would use letro .5mg ED and vitamin B6 200mg ED

For supps I would use milk thistle, and saw palmeto

**Jray1der** · 12-15-2005, 11:35 AM

Tren at that low of a dose, I was using 75mg last cycle. Are you sure?

Originally Posted by TheMudMan

Here are a few suggestions:

wks 1-15 Test Prop 100mg ed
wks 1-12 Tren A 50mg ed
wks 1-12 EQ 600mg ew

wks 1-4 Halo 25mg ed
wks 1-14 Test Prop 100mg ed
wks 4-12 Tren A 50mg ed
wks 1-12 EQ 600mg ew

wks 1-4 Halo 25mg ed
wks 1-14 Test Prop 100mg ed
wks 1-12 Tren A 50mg ed
wks 9-14 Winstrol 50mg ed

For anti-e I would use letro .5mg ED and vitamin B6 200mg ED

For supps I would use milk thistle, and saw palmeto

**Got Insulin?** · 12-15-2005, 11:38 AM

you look like you want strength...why not try some suspension?

**Got Insulin?** · 12-15-2005, 11:38 AM

winstrol isnt needed with that cycle....

**Jray1der** · 12-15-2005, 11:54 AM

I dont think i can swing that suspension. You have to shoot that a couple of times a day, and I dont have the time for shooting so often in a day. But yeah, strength is what I am looking for, but Iwant to be solid and get nice and defined as well.I will be working with a dietician to get my plan together for what I am trying to accomplish.

Originally Posted by Got Insulin?

you look like you want strength...why not try some suspension?

**TheMudMan** · 12-15-2005, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by Jray1der

Tren at that low of a dose, I was using 75mg last cycle. Are you sure?

These are just suggestions........ I don't know your cycle history.

**TheMudMan** · 12-15-2005, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by Got Insulin?

winstrol isnt needed with that cycle....

Why wouldn't winny be needed?

Tren and winny with a low bf = rock hard and shredded

**Jray1der** · 12-15-2005, 12:41 PM

yeah I know, I dont see why it wouldnt be added at the end of the cycle. I was thinking it would help put the finishing touches on getting the lean shredded look.

Originally Posted by TheMudMan

Why wouldn't winny be needed?

Tren and winny with a low bf = rock hard and shredded

**Jray1der** · 12-15-2005, 12:45 PM

last cycle:
12 weeks
12 week prop 100mg ed
10 week eq 500mg ew
8 week tren a 75mg ed
I look and feel a helluva lot better after doing this cycle, so thats why I decided to run it again but with a few things added.

Originally Posted by TheMudMan

These are just suggestions........ I don't know your cycle history.

**TheMudMan** · 12-15-2005, 01:09 PM

You're fine up the dose on the tren ........... I just threw some cycles up there to show you that all those compounds are not needed to make a good cycle. Plus for a 3rd cycle it was too much and you had too many 17aa in there as well.

**Jray1der** · 12-15-2005, 01:29 PM

so basically if i am running this, i will need some serious liver and kidney support?

Originally Posted by TheMudMan

You're fine up the dose on the tren........... I just threw some cycles up there to show you that all those compounds are not needed to make a good cycle. Plus for a 3rd cycle it was too much and you had too many 17aa in there as well.