Most powerful roid

***Narkissos*** · 01-05-2006, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by DaBoy7777

im not trying to be a dick r anything but the skinny kid above me i think you r way to small to even think about doing roids...i hope that is not you...you could have gained so much weight natural...i used to be like that but i gained 60 pounds all natural...lay of the juice you are not ready...

ROFLMAO! x 2

***Narkissos*** · 01-05-2006, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by tranzit

Slin is far from a mass builder. Slin is basicly used for transport, and some use it pre contest to give that veiny look.

I disagree.. on all counts. Have you used slin Tranzit ole boy? Anyone who's used it knows different.

It's more than a transport agent.. In fact, saying that it's basic use in bodybuilding is relegated to that is akin to blasphemy.

And the veiny look with slin pre-contest? BS.

We drop it the week prior because it makes one hold water.

Just an FYI ole boy.

Originally Posted by tranzit

Personaly i dont **** with that stuff as i have known of more then a few people who have become slin dependent afterwards or worse died.

You personally know bodybuilders who have died due to slin or become sline-dependent?

**tranzit** · 01-05-2006, 02:35 PM

Yes test shut your mouth you skinny bitch! lol

J/k

**aadrenaline** · 01-05-2006, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by Swifto

I think Tren . Due to it being so androgenic .

But the most powerful combination I've seen?

Has to be Apex Pharmaceutical's, 'All-Test'.

Supply: 10ML Contents: per ml 350mg / ml

Testosterone Propionate 40mg / ml

Testosterone Enanthate 80mg / ml

Testosterone Isocaproate 70mg / ml

Testosterone Acetate 30 mg/ ml

Testosterone Decanoate 70mg/ ml

Testosterone Phenylpropionate 60mg / ml

Benzyl Alcohol & Lidocaine

thats like a super sust with a bonus..lol

not many said test suspension?

**simster1** · 01-05-2006, 02:38 PM

Suspension for pure mass tren is good at building muscle and cutting fat but mg for mg suspension is stronger

***Narkissos*** · 01-05-2006, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by Narkissos

I disagree.. on all counts. Have you used slin Tranzit ole boy? Anyone who's used it knows different.

It's more than a transport agent.. In fact, saying that it's basic use in bodybuilding is relegated to that is akin to blasphemy.

And the veiny look with slin pre-contest? BS.

We drop it the week prior because it makes one hold water.

Just an FYI ole boy.

You personally know bodybuilders who have died due to slin or become slin-dependent?

Re: Tranzit.

**tranzit** · 01-05-2006, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by Narkissos

I disagree.. on all counts. Have you used slin Tranzit ole boy? Anyone who's used it knows different.

Yeh nark im making it all it becoue im jealous of 5"6 mods who know more about steroids then i do.

It's more than a transport agent.. In fact, saying that it's basic use in bodybuilding is relegated to that is akin to blasphemy.
What your procard ID number i have been meaning to look that up?

And the veiny look with slin pre-contest? BS.

again that procard number?

We drop it the week prior because it makes one hold water.

was as in amature lightweights? Ole boy.

Just an FYI ole boy.

You personally know bodybuilders who have died due to slin or become sline-dependent?

yes, i do know of body builders who have died or whos body has become dependent on slin.

**aadrenaline** · 01-05-2006, 02:47 PM

taking from profiles forum on suspension:

"Testosterone Suspension is an injectable hormone in a water base that was developed and used for decades and is actually the first anabolic , androgenic steroid used. For the purpose of building mass, Testosterone Suspension has never been surpassed since it was first developed in the 1930's."

"As was noted before, testosterone can be considered one of the most powerful mass builders and testosterone suspension can be considered one of the most powerful of the testosterones simply due to the fact that it has no attached ester. This means that you are getting 100mgs of Test per 100mgs you inject; Suspension is the only version of Testosterone that can boast that claim."

**tranzit** · 01-05-2006, 02:49 PM

http://bjsm.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/37/4/356

http://www.webmd.com/content/article/72/81527.htm

http://www.healthypages.net/news.asp?newsid=3704

i could go on forever.. but i have shit to do so ill let you explain all of this mr bodybuilder. and the next time you come here to flame somone pick another target, as i am getting a little annoyed with you always trying to make me look stupid.

***Narkissos*** · 01-05-2006, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by tranzit

yes, i do know of body builders who have died or whos body has become dependent on slin.

'k.. do you have any what their dosage amount/frequency and ,more importantly, slin-cycle durations were?

***BajanBastard*** · 01-05-2006, 02:53 PM

Get him Tranzit!

**tranzit** · 01-05-2006, 02:54 PM

No and im also not sure what caliber the gun was that killed JFK but i know hes dead. I dont need to go into elicit detail to prove your wrong. Its all in every medical journal i have ever read.

**tranzit** · 01-05-2006, 02:55 PM

I'm trying K hehe.. hes stubborn you know that.. but i will win! i will!

**tranzit** · 01-05-2006, 02:57 PM

ok im going tanning and to hit the gym. Ill pick this up when i get back.. so nanny nanny boo boo to you nark! =P

***Narkissos*** · 01-05-2006, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by tranzit

http://bjsm.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/37/4/356

This is not a research article showing the potential for slin to cause insulin dependence in bodybuilder.. rather it:

a. Illustrated that bodybuilder in question was using slin recklessly. He was using a slow-acting insulin for dieting.. probably to induce perpetual ketosis. When he switch to the short acting insulin (the one we use with preference in the post-prandial application) he went hypo. It was plain ignorance.

Long-action insulin isn't safe for bodybuilders period

b. Gave a basic insulin faq

There is no documentation of pancreatic burnout.. the guy didn't die.. What are you really trying to show with this link?

Originally Posted by tranzit

http://www.webmd.com/content/article/72/81527.htm

Ditto on this... blah blah blah.. ignorant user.. blah blah blah.. doesnt show us shit.

No pancreatic burnout... no pancreatic suppression.

Low blood sugar... What?

Originally Posted by tranzit

http://www.healthypages.net/news.asp?newsid=3704

The third of three non-studies. Tranzit you're on a roll today

Originally Posted by tranzit

i could go on forever.. but i have shit to do so ill let you explain all of this mr bodybuilder. and the next time you come here to flame somone pick another target, as i am getting a little annoyed with you always trying to make me look stupid.

That was not my intent... hence the FYI.. but truly.. no one needs to try to make you look stupid.. you do a great job on your own.

***BajanBastard*** · 01-05-2006, 03:04 PM

Yeah when you come back post what you have on exogenous insulin induced pancreatic burnout.

**scriptfactory** · 01-05-2006, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by tranzit

http://bjsm.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/37/4/356

http://www.webmd.com/content/article/72/81527.htm

http://www.healthypages.net/news.asp?newsid=3704

i could go on forever.. but i have shit to do so ill let you explain all of this mr bodybuilder. and the next time you come here to flame somone pick another target, as i am getting a little annoyed with you always trying to make me look stupid.

I'm not trying to pick on you or whatever, but all three of those articles only talk about the same 31yo Glasgow guy (and one SUSPECTED user). Do you actually know anyone that died or became slin dependant from insulin or did you just read those articles?

**MASTER** · 01-05-2006, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by RM_DUDE

It’s true if you are making good gains - why take roids, save your money for something else like a date on a Saturday night. Having said that....

I have to recall a number of light weight guys I knew on the freshman wrestling team....skinny guys...well at least they were skinny first week of freshman year....but by June of the next year, at the end of freshman year - they were chunky beefy mean and nasty wrestlers...they must of gained a good solid 30 lbs ....and it was not natural....they got roids from their coach...who also supervised their diet....very impressive...

So I can’t buy into this u too skinny stuff.....but be careful and know what you are doing when u do roids.....

**MASTER** · 01-05-2006, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by tranzit

Slin is far from a mass builder. Slin is basicly used for transport, and some use it pre contest to give that veiny look. Personaly i dont **** with that stuff as i have known of more then a few people who have become slin dependent afterwards or worse died.

Nark and KLG surely will bring the smackdown on you for this comment!

**MASTER** · 01-05-2006, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by tranzit

i still stand by what i said MG for mg nothing beats Drol. Period.

No doubt! Preach big boy, preach!!

***Narkissos*** · 01-05-2006, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by scriptfactory

I'm not trying to pick on you or whatever, but all three of those articles only talk about the same 31yo Glasgow guy (and one SUSPECTED user).

Great Observation script

Originally Posted by scriptfactory

Do you actually know anyone that died or became slin dependant from insulin or did you just read those articles?

I suspect he just read the articles.. and, like Hoss with his "here's a pic of a guy from my gym" threads, is just bullshitting

Tranzit...

reveiw: http://care.diabetesjournals.org/cgi.../full/24/3/430
conclusion:

Since i know you'll probably want a summary here:

The DCCT and other studies proved the importance of good blood glucose control in preventing eye, kidney, and nerve complications in people with both type 1 (127,8). Unfortunately, when the DCCT results were released, the only way to achieve better glucose control was more daily injections associated with more daily blood glucose tests, or the use of an insulin pump-delivery system. To the best of our knowledge, this is the first report to show a decline in HbA1c values in a general diabetes clinic after the DCCT report. The decline in HbA1c was most dramatic in teenagers and adults in the first year after the DCCT. These were the age-groups in which the DCCT data were shown to be applicable. Unfortunately, values leveled off between 1994 and 1996. In this study, the decline in HbA1c values from 1993 to 1996 in adults was significantly related to the use of intensive therapy. As described in the DCCT (1), and as found in this study, the incidence of severe hypoglycemic events increased. The increase continued in 1995 and 1996, even though HbA1c levels stabilized, presumably due to the continued attempts to lower values and the occurrence of "hypoglycemia-unawareness" with the greater duration of tighter control. The realization of the need for improved glycemic control, associated with a two- to threefold increase in severe hypoglycemic episodes, led to displeasure from both diabetes care providers (9) and patients.

Our study showed that the introduction of Humalog insulin made it possible to obtain the goal of improved blood glucose control without any further increase in severe hypoglycemic episodes. Alternative explanations for these outcomes might be the patient cohort changing during the study period, advances in glucose monitoring, insulin administration, increased familiarity with intensive diabetes management, and educational strategies. Humalog insulin resulted in lower postprandial blood glucose levels in every study in comparison with values after regular insulin (10–13). This was primarily because of higher insulin levels 30 to 90 min after injection, which closely matched food absorption. Many studies also showed a decline in severe hypoglycemic episodes (10–14), particularly during the nighttime. In addition, the frequency of hypoglycemic events in people using insulin pumps declined when Humalog was used in the pump rather than regular insulin (15–18).

Although the U.S. Food and Drug Administration initially approved Humalog only for children older than 12 years of age and adults, we and most others began using it in patients of all ages (19,20). Humalog was particularly helpful in children younger than 5 years of age with variable appetites. In toddlers with type 1 diabetes, postprandial administration of Humalog showed lower postprandial glucose excursions when compared with preprandial human regular insulin (20). In the current trial, the major reasons for not changing to Humalog insulin were the physician’s choice, insurance companies not willing to reimburse the cost of Humalog, and lower socioeconomic status.

The decline in HbA1c levels after the introduction of Humalog occurred without an increase in the number of severe hypoglycemic episodes. Instead, a decrease in the number of severe episodes was found. This result is particularly important in young children, in whom severe episodes may result in brain damage (21,22). Patients and health care providers are more likely to accept intensive insulin therapy if it does not result in a greater risk for severe hypoglycemia (which can result in death).

As described in the DCCT (5), the 13- to 18-year age-group had the highest level of HbA1c values. Increased insulin resistance in this age-group is one possible cause for such values (23,24). It is likely that behavior (including food choices) and psychological issues may also contribute to the higher HbA1c values in teens. The 5- to 12-year age-group probably had lower HbA1c values because puberty and insulin resistance were not yet present and because parents have more control and influence over diabetes care during this period. Although we only recommend HbA1c values <9.3% in toddlers, when the brain is still growing and hypoglycemia can often not be recognized, their HbA1c values were not as high as might have been anticipated. Clearly, the adult group consistently had the best HbA1c values, probably because of lack of insulin resistance and better understanding of diabetes.

In conclusion, HbA1c levels declined in all four age-groups after the DCCT. Unfortunately, in concurrence with the findings of the DCCT, the number of severe hypoglycemic episodes increased. However, a second significant decline in HbA1c values occurred with the introduction of Humalog insulin. Fortunately, the incidence of severe hypoglycemic episodes did not increase after Humalog therapy. It will be important with future changes in care (e.g., introduction of continuous glucose monitoring) to document changes in HbA1c levels as well as in the incidence of severe hypoglycemic events in diabetes clinic populations of all ages

***BajanBastard*** · 01-05-2006, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by JamesC

Nark and KLG surely will bring the smackdown on you for this comment!

Ha! What side you from?! Slin siiiddddeeee!

**magic32** · 01-05-2006, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by tranzit

after further review.. your question is what is the most powerfull roid...
I would have to say the Hem would be the most powerfull one. This one can bring you to your knees or even make you bleed.

Very powerfull not for the newbie!

Now that was funny!!! Lol
And quite well delivered Tranz.

M.

***Narkissos*** · 01-05-2006, 03:22 PM

O sorry.. you probably want it in ENglish don't you Tranzit?

In english.. for tranzit

Narkisssos:

Short acting insulin , namely humalog..potentially novalog, used in the post-prandial (PWO) phase reverses insulin resistance in type I diabetics.

Seeing that post-prandial application is the procedure recommended to bodybuilders to maximise glycogen supercompensation etc. ... It is highly unlikely that anyone can become insulin dependent from slin-use... especially with the infrequent (i.e. training days only), short-cycle (4-6 weeks) use.

Further more.. the addition of slin to a cycle can ease the workload of the pancreas... as th pancreas doesn't have to pump out ass much slin to deal with the transporation of the high amounts of nutrients (carbs; aminos) bodybuilders consume

~Narkissos

***BajanBastard*** · 01-05-2006, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by Narkissos

O sorry.. you probably want it in ENglish don't you Tranzit?

In english.. for tranzit

Narkisssos:

Short acting insulin , namely humalog..potentially novalog, used in the post-prandial (PWO) phase reverses insulin resistance in type I diabetics.

Seeing that post-prandial application is the procedure recommended to bodybuilders to maximise glycogen supercompensation etc. ... It is highly unlikely that anyone can become insulin dependent from slin-use... especially with the infrequent (i.e. training days only), short-cycle (4-6 weeks) use.

Further more.. the addition of slin to a cycle can ease the workload of the pancreas... as th pancreas doesn't have to pump out ass much slin to deal with the transporation of the high amounts of nutrients (carbs; aminos) bodybuilders consume

~Narkissos

WTF?! That my theory, MINE!

***Narkissos*** · 01-05-2006, 03:26 PM

Now Tranzit... i'd like to understand.. it was not my intention to own you in this manner.

I was just curious about the bodybuilders you claimed to know who were insulin -dependent.

However, since you forced me to retaliate.. i did.. and without name-calling... Just pure hard facts.

In the future.. i'd advise if you are gonna call me out.. at least know what you're talking about...

Copy and paste , no reference, shit.. don't fly here

~Narkissos

***Narkissos*** · 01-05-2006, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by big k.l.g

WTF?! That my theory MINE!

gotta give you credit for that part...

But you gotta give me credit for the perpetual cycle theorem... i got the "humalog reverses insulin resistance" study months back ..and relayed it's info in planning the perpetual cycle theorem.

We work good together

Woot!

**tranzit** · 01-05-2006, 05:58 PM

Im editing this becouse i dont feel like being banned...

**tranzit** · 01-05-2006, 06:12 PM

Note to members, never try and argue with Mod's it gets you terminated. 90% of the most informed experienced users here get banned calling people on their bullshit.

Or this could be propaganda by me..

**scriptfactory** · 01-05-2006, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by tranzit

Im editing this becouse i dont feel like being banned...

Haha! Smart move. There's nothing to see here. Let keep it moving along.

No, seriously. Do you know someone who was hurt by insulin ? I am really curious about these sort of things.

**tranzit** · 01-05-2006, 06:22 PM

Yes, two people a guy named jerome amature heavy weight from my area 5-6 years ago died as he abused slin ****ed his blood suger up he went into shock and died. another guy i know is now dependent on insulin shots becouse of abuse.

**testosterona** · 01-05-2006, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by DaBoy7777

im not trying to be a dick r anything but the skinny kid above me i think you r way to small to even think about doing roids...i hope that is not you...you could have gained so much weight natural...i used to be like that but i gained 60 pounds all natural...lay of the juice you are not ready...

......here you go buddy.

as for the girl, i fvcked her when i was a "skinny kid"

**tranzit** · 01-05-2006, 06:24 PM

test you skinny bitch what did i tell you? haha nice pics bro. You look really hot in the purple kini

***BajanBastard*** · 01-05-2006, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by tranzit

Note to members, never try and argue with Mod's it gets you terminated. 90% of the most informed experienced users here get banned calling people on their bullshit.

Or this could be propaganda by me..

What bullshit? Do you have any experience with slin? Common man you said you knew about people who became insulin dependant post insulin use, however as far as i know that's a myth like the good ole "T3 use shuts down your thyroid for life" story. The burden of proof is on you Tranzit.

Nothing is wrong with your opinion as log as you do it in a respectable manner. I also agree with Nark, if you make a claim you better have some proof to back it up.

**MASTER** · 01-05-2006, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by tranzit

Im editing this becouse i dont feel like being banned...

Smart move!

**tranzit** · 01-05-2006, 06:30 PM

also never argue with people from 18-25 they have done everything and know everything.. or at least they can find it in a book the have read.

I am a firefighter, thats what i do for a living is ride around in medic units so excuse me if some mod on a forum whos almost 10 years my Jr's support of a substance that i HAVE seen kill and effect people in person dosent fly with me. Just becouse you have used slin with no sides so far dosent mean that it will stay that way forever. ALSO its human nature to push the envelope so what starts out at 4 weeks can turn into 8 or into everytime i go out to s club or whatever.. thats the way it works.. it breeds abuse. Both people i mentioned were abusing but that is a given i never said one injection of slin would kill you or mess your body up.

**Pinnacle** · 01-05-2006, 06:32 PM

This thread is getting rather ugly...lol...

**MASTER** · 01-05-2006, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

This thread is getting rather ugly...lol...

Yep pretty soon itll resemble decadbal!

**tranzit** · 01-05-2006, 06:37 PM

I agree, but using big words and book research isnt cutting it for me. Real world is people abuse this stuff and it can kill them. And before the argument comes up you can abuse anything and kill yourself thats true but this one can do it pretty fast.