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    Time to critique heavy's new cycle

    i was anxious to right this up but wont be starting it for at least another 2 months......... hopefully this will help others as well as me.....

    This will be third cycle. 192 lbs, not sure on the BF

    flaming is welcome...

    Dbol Weeks 1-4 30mg ED
    Prop weeks 1-4 100mg ED
    Test E Weeks 1-14 600mg EW
    Tren A Weeks 5-14 75mg ED
    Nolva 20mg ED throughout

    PCT 2 weeks after last Test E shot consisting of Clomid, trib and yohimbe

    Diet will obviously be in check.

    Questions for the vets to think about..

    1. Am I adding and ending the tren at the right time?

    2. I'm a noob to HGH and HCG . Good idea to add any? When and how much?

    3. Is it worth it to add winny at the end?

    4. Whats the meaning of life? j/k


    Thanks brosephs!

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    are you gonna be shooting the enanthate twice a week?

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    Quote Originally Posted by goalseeker
    are you gonna be shooting the enanthate twice a week?
    yes, i will

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    i think it looks ok. i personally wouldn't worry about hcg for that cycle. it's not too long or too heavy. whenever i run tren i always run it to the end. not to say thats correct or incorrect, but imo, i think where you have it is fine. i contemplated throwing in some winny at the end of my current cycle, which has a sh_t ton of tren in it, but decided not to because of how hard tren has made me look every other time i have ran it.

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    too much at the beggining mate drop the prop and run that the last 4 weeks running into your pct,personally i would run the tren from the start and not at the end,but you can run it there mate!

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    First off you need to decide what your goals are. Cutting or bulking. If your cutting, No need for DBOL , no need for Enan. Since you will be shooting the Tren A ED, Then shoot Prop along with it. Now, if your bulking, no need to use Prop at the beginning. If you're cutting, I would add some Winstrol .

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    Quote Originally Posted by booz
    too much at the beggining mate drop the prop and run that the last 4 weeks running into your pct,personally i would run the tren from the start and not at the end,but you can run it there mate!
    I agree with running the Prop for the final 4 weeks, 6 weeks preferably.

    What you running to combat prolactin related side effects? Since your running a Progestin.

    I'd incorperate HCG into your cycle, since your running Tren , its use often leads to complete testosterone inhibition. You can run it 3 ways:

    - Throughout your cycle at between 500-1000ius/wk, splitting the injections up. Right up to PCT. Nolva should also be run to help prevent Leydig Cell dessentisation.

    - Half way through your cycle for 7-10 days. At between 500-1000ius/ED.

    - For the final 10 days leading to PCT, at between 500-1000ius/ED. PCT starts when the compound used is no longer active and the following day after the HCG is discontinued.

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    great advice.

    i am going for bulker. hopefully 15-20 pounds of muscle i can keep and shred up before summer afterwards.

    yea, tren shut me down hard last time and i promised myself up and down that i would encorporate some hcg with it.

    looks like i will move the prop to the back end

    and swift, you think i will have progesterone control problems if i haven't in the past? or should i steal some of my woman's birth control?


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    Some are prone others are not. I'd run some Vit-B6 at 100-200mg/ED to be on the safe side. See how you go with that. You dosage of Tren isnt massive so I dont think Dostinex/Bromo is needed just yet.

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    Some are prone others are not. I'd run some Vit-B6 at 100-200mg/ED to be on the safe side. See how you go with that. You dosage of Tren isnt massive so I dont think Dostinex/Bromo is needed just yet.

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    just use b6 at 200mg ed for the prolactin issues you may get from the tren !

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    Quote Originally Posted by booz
    just use b6 at 200mg ed for the prolactin issues you may get from the tren!
    First 'Johnny B', now me. Bit slow off the mark heh Booz. That tiredness is showing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto
    First 'Johnny B', now me. Bit slow off the mark heh Booz. That tiredness is showing.

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