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    Question babys mom....knows i have used!!

    i am about to go to court so i can see my children...but my babys mom is a very evil bltch because i dumped her over a year ago and i got a new girlfriend so she wont let me see my kids....if she brings it up in court that i have used steroids do you think they will test me for roids? and how much would it cost them to test me for them? i have heard it costs alot of money so they probably wont test me....

    i have used deca ....so it will still be in my system for another 10 months.

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    You are going to CIVIL court. So most likely they will not be worried about anything CRIMINAL.

    Her claim will be this... You take(took) roids. Roids are illegal. Thus you are a criminal and therefor unfit to see your kid.

    It is a character battle! I assume you have an attorney! This is NOT something to cheap out on! Take your gear money and go pay for an attorney ASAP if you don't have one already!!

    He can help you through this process. He might have you deny it, might have you admit to past use and explain how it was a cycle of steroids , and not crack, or use some other method. But bottom line is your kid!

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    i have no money for a lawyer at all....this is in superior court....it deals with child support....the state is coming after me because she was getting money from the state when we were together and never told me....i will ask to see my kids the judge will grant this but if she says i have used steroids ...then what

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    can i get a bump bump?

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    They won't test you, if she talks about it just deny it. Say that she is just making things up because you have a new girlfriend and she is feeling hurt. The problem shouldn't be turned over to you, just say that you are there to take care of the baby issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loki_is_a_god
    i have no money for a lawyer at all....this is in superior court....it deals with child support....the state is coming after me because she was getting money from the state when we were together and never told me....i will ask to see my kids the judge will grant this but if she says i have used steroids...then what
    1) Like I said before, you are going to CIVIL court (I don't care where or what court... its still a civil issue).

    2) Lying about taking AAS will likely make you look like and ASS. I bet she's seen plenty to describe what you were doing... and sound like she's telling the truth. This will just make you look worse, IMO.

    3) Going to court for child support it a totally and seperate issue from visitation.

    4) Why aren't you already paying child support?? You think diapers and formula are free??

    Sorry, but damn guy, if you are going for visitation and she's being a b*tch, thats one thing. But if you are going for SUPPORT... PAY UP DUDE! Ditch the gear, get a second job, and pay for the kid! Sorry, but no ifs, ands, or buts on this part. Just pay up. It hurts. Trust me, I know that! But you gotta pay!

    Oh yeah...

    5) GET AN ATTORNEY for visitation! I don't care if you get one for child support or not. You should be paying already, IMO. But if you don't get one she'll sock it to you hard! Just think, 20% BEFORE taxes is the norm!

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    that is what i was planning on doing...just denying anything she says ...she has no proof...it would be all hearsay

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    first off turbo...i have given her 2200 last year.....i have been paying but to her now...that i ditched and found a new girl she wants to lie and say i havent given her anything....this is the state coming after me for money she took from the state.....she lied about having a job so they gave her 300 dollars a month...since my baby boy was born....

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    Why dont you just turn the tables and say she is a Heroin Addict.

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    if you paid her 2200 last year and you didnt pay her through the courts. sorry bro but your f'd. i hope you have reciepts. but guess what, that doesn't count. she can say it was a gift or because you owed it to her. as fars as the courts see, it doesnt count. get a lawyer, grab your ankles and hold on, its going to be a rough ride. I'm thinking if she has a god lawyer, they'll get you for back child support and child support from here on out. GOOD LUCK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loki_is_a_god
    if she brings it up in court...
    That's some very good advice above, someone has experience in this.

    So I'll add remember always admit, admit, admit...to supplement use.

    "I use Creatine, Glutamine, Lycopene, green beans, brown beans and red beans".

    And you might want to wear some loose fitting clothing, to subtract from your physique. Don't walk in flexing.

    M.

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    Dude let me tell you from experience, they can only get you for back child suppost from and only from the time she put in that petition. period thats it. i've been there. now as far as she telling the judge about you using AAS. 1. the judge is not trying to hear that, thats for another court. 2. she has no proof. my kids mom tried to bring up real estate issues and the judge told her your in the wrong court, lol. if by some long shot the judge ask you about the AAS use, I'd just say she is trying to discredit me. or lie on the bitch and tell the judge she has used cocaine in the pass but thats not what I'm here for, your not here to make her look bad. lol. If you have any receipts bring them and dude try and get a lawyer.
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    i hope it all works out for u mate, when is the court date?

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    I am going through the same shit... good luck with that...right down to the part about the girl lying to the state to get aid.... My kid and her even lived in a residence that was in my name and I paid all the bills... Now I have a new girlfriend and she is trying to screw me for back support, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kale
    Why dont you just turn the tables and say she is a Heroin Addict.
    Agreed, if she tries to play the drug card and the judge doesn't squash it...say she smoked a joint last 4th of July and did a couple lines of coke on New Years. The accusations are irrelevant and in family court battles the judge has seen and heard it all by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loki_is_a_god
    i have no money for a lawyer at all
    You have the right to representation, if you cannot afford an attorney one will be appointed to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerliftmike
    You have the right to representation, if you cannot afford an attorney one will be appointed to you.
    Exactly.

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    Couple of things... As far as back child support; the statute is different depending on what state you live in. In some states, they can go born back to the day the child was born for back child support. In other states, they can go back two year. It just depends on where you live.

    And as far as getting a lawyer appointed to you.... "good luck". If it is a civil matter you will not have a lawyer appointed to you by the state. If you are being prosecuted for a criminal offense (criminal non-support) , you have the right to have an attorney appointed to you, but you must be able to prove "indegint" status. (at least in my state). That decision is made by the judge. Good luck. The system is really set up against you.

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    With all due Respect

    Quote Originally Posted by BigJames
    Exactly.
    The Sixth Amendment right to counsel applies ONLY to criminal trials/ not domestic custody suits in civil court. You will not have one appointed to represent you in a civil matter.

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    thank you guys of the advice.....the court date is feb 16 ...i live in arizona

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