Newb Here i know nothing Please shed some light..

**i love my s2k** · 02-13-2006, 08:58 PM

First off i sorry i such a newb and know nothing at all....

Well i have been searching on here for about an hour.But i dont know much about steroids .

Anyways here is my situation.I looking to get ripped by summer.Never worked out a day in my life beside basketball practice.Last week i started watching what i eat for once i dropped 10 lbs in 5 days only thing i taking is hydroxycut.I have been eating very healthy protein bar for breakfast,salad for lunch,Then steamed veggies and grilled chicken for dinner.I drink at least 100 oz of water per day. Tomorrow i start my first day at the gym.I weigh 184 im 5"10 and 24 years old.I have alot of extra fat around my stomach and "Love Handles" thats the only spots i have a alot of fat.

I dont wanna get huge but i wanna be cut and ripped.I need to get rid of the stomach my main focus is on abs.

Can anyone give me some info i know i just gave a very broad describtion,but like i said i knew to this.

**Liftnainez** · 02-13-2006, 09:02 PM

Steroids is the last thing you should be thinking about. You just said you have never worked out a day in your life and you just started dieting.. What are your stats anyway? You need to EAT TRAIN REST READ LEARN and EAT some more.. stick around this site- read the stickies in the diet and work out forum.. that should get you on your way.. good luck

**TheMudMan** · 02-13-2006, 09:04 PM

Start looking at the diet forum here. That will give you an idea on the nutrition part of this life style. But if you're looking for advice on AAS....... you're not ready.

**i love my s2k** · 02-13-2006, 09:11 PM

So your saying AAS would do nothing for me.Ok i have worked out a couple times in my life nothing steady like im about to start doing

**drak** · 02-13-2006, 09:20 PM

Bro, you need to workout years before you are ready for AAS.
AAS isn't a magical pill, or magical injection, your body needs to be ready for it, and you should research while you are getting yourself ready. For now, I would advise you to keep your diet in tact, get some morning cardio, with an empty stomache, and once you lose a bit of fat, maybe implement some Clen in that routine to help out. Whats your current BF%?

As far as AAS, don't even consider it for a while.
This is for your own benefit.

Good luck!

**topvega** · 02-13-2006, 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by i love my s2k

So your saying AAS would do nothing for me.Ok i have worked out a couple times in my life nothing steady like im about to start doing

No juice for U...........................Get on a steady diet and excersise program and check back with us in a year or so.......

**t66stang** · 02-13-2006, 09:35 PM

yea you can get buff by summer if you train hard and eat right. YOU DONT NEED STEROIDS .

SVTMuscle* · 02-13-2006, 09:37 PM

hey man, welcome to the board, getting ripped by summer will be no problem with you, do some research, up the cardio and hit the weights with a good set schedual and you'll start seeing gains in no time!
no need to worry about AAS at this time, keep it natural and rely on hard work bro.

**i love my s2k** · 02-13-2006, 09:42 PM

Well i dont know how to tell my body fat.Im not out of shape or anything.What is so bad about taking it now.I have just been around alot of friends that have never really worked out much and have taken something i dont know what kind it was.I dont even know how and where people get this at.I talked to someone today about it and said he can get it.I just dont know the details yet.

**i love my s2k** · 02-13-2006, 09:43 PM

Thanks for the positive comments!

SVTMuscle* · 02-13-2006, 10:01 PM

dont worry man, im not out of shape by any means either, but i still got some baby fat around the waist area, its the toughest part to loose.

btw, American muscle > little imports hehe

**i love my s2k** · 02-13-2006, 10:14 PM

btw, American muscle > little imports hehe[/QUOTE]

LoL..little but 109hp per liter hehe

I guess i just really confused.What would it do to hit the gym hard for a month straight and diet like crazy and do a cycle after that.

SVTMuscle* · 02-13-2006, 10:18 PM

you + AAS = no no.

dude your an amatuer, as you would probaly be more familar with...
"AMATUER'S DONT USE NAWZZ (steroids in this case), you'll blow yourself up" (in a language you ricer's would understand haha)

**topvega** · 02-13-2006, 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by i love my s2k

btw, American muscle > little imports hehe

LoL..little but 109hp per liter hehe

I guess i just really confused.What would it do to hit the gym hard for a month straight and diet like crazy and do a cycle after that.[/QUOTE]

U need alot more then just 1 month of solid training and diet.......

SVTMuscle* · 02-13-2006, 10:21 PM

exactly man, guys work out for years and spend just as much time learning before they cycle. its nothing something you do overnight, once you hit your natural limit is when you being to start really learning how to cycle. and in 1 month, you'll be no where near your limit.
and plus, the 1st month is nothing more than breaking the ice, i've been consistant for 2 years now and still growing like crazy

**i love my s2k** · 02-13-2006, 10:27 PM

Anyways im not here to aurgue with you about your SVT(focus hehe) joking.

Ok so everyone is saying NO NO NO......Ok but why

**ManOsteel** · 02-13-2006, 10:36 PM

Well, AAS should only be an option if you've been training for years naturally with supplements and you've hit a wall where you can't see the results you want naturally so you'd take AAS for that extra push. You have no experience working out let alone taking any type of AAS. My advise to you is read up on the diet forum, training forum and learn how to set up a workout and diet plan that fits your individual needs. Stick to your plan for long term, your not gonna get where you want over night, give it time and stick with it. If you'r still interested in taking AAS after a year or more then research research research. AAS is'nt a magical way of gaining mass or getting cut, believe me it takes knowledge. There are many guys here that can help you out that have over 20yrs of experience and they will all tell you the same thing, you are definetely not ready for AAS bro. Good luck

**usamm** · 02-13-2006, 10:41 PM

funny kid

**Tren Bull** · 02-13-2006, 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by i love my s2k

First off i sorry i such a newb and know nothing at all....

Well i have been searching on here for about an hour.But i dont know much about steroids .

Anyways here is my situation.I looking to get ripped by summer.Never worked out a day in my life beside basketball practice.Last week i started watching what i eat for once i dropped 10 lbs in 5 days only thing i taking is hydroxycut.I have been eating very healthy protein bar for breakfast,salad for lunch,Then steamed veggies and grilled chicken for dinner.I drink at least 100 oz of water per day. Tomorrow i start my first day at the gym.I weigh 184 im 5"10 and 24 years old.I have alot of extra fat around my stomach and "Love Handles" thats the only spots i have a alot of fat.

I dont wanna get huge but i wanna be cut and ripped.I need to get rid of the stomach my main focus is on abs.

Can anyone give me some info i know i just gave a very broad describtion,but like i said i knew to this.

its not a good idea to jump into this sh_t bro. you need to get everything else in check first, like diet and training routine. if you're feeling impatient to lose fat you could try clen , but even that will help only a little. the most important thing is what you eat.

**Tren Bull** · 02-13-2006, 10:44 PM

and of corse lifting. you should lift hard for at least a year before you start juicing... preferably longer

**Tren Bull** · 02-13-2006, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by i love my s2k

So your saying AAS would do nothing for me.Ok i have worked out a couple times in my life nothing steady like im about to start doing

gear would make you grow, but it would be very difficult for you to keep what you gain. most likely it would injure you cause your muscles would grow much faster than your tendons could support, resulting in a torn tendon

**i love my s2k** · 02-13-2006, 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by usamm

funny kid

Thanks for the comment.This is why i hate coming to forums that i dont know anything about.Sorry for trying to find some useful info,and ask for help from knowledgable people.

Your the type of person i can not stand on forum boards.

**i love my s2k** · 02-13-2006, 11:01 PM

I just wanna be able to take my shirt off this summer and not have the average body.I wanna be some what cut with some abs.

If i did take it i would see a difference,but your saying it is kinda pointless in a way.

**Tren Bull** · 02-13-2006, 11:08 PM

well, i dont know if it would be pointless, cause if you stayed totally dedicated to diet and training, plus you ran proper pct with clen youd definately keep some of your gains, but its very possible that you would injure yourself.

**Tren Bull** · 02-13-2006, 11:10 PM

steroids are not a miracle drug. perfect bodies are built through years of hard work and dedication... many many years

**i love my s2k** · 02-13-2006, 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by Tren Bull

well, i dont know if it would be pointless, cause if you stayed totally dedicated to diet and training, plus you ran proper pct with clen youd definately keep some of your gains, but its very possible that you would injure yourself.

lol i lost with all these clen pct names.Everyone has alot of knowledge on this site thats for sure.

So what would you recommend i wanna get the most gains possible by june.
All my fat is in my stomach.To the point where it will barley hang over my pants when i sit straight up in a chair.

**Tren Bull** · 02-13-2006, 11:16 PM

id just like to say that i think it is a bad idea for you to be running gear, but if you're totally convinced to do it anyway, then il help you

SVTMuscle* · 02-13-2006, 11:20 PM

dude i can promise you, if you do 1 hour of cardio a day (30 min in the AM before cardio) and another 30 minutes later on in the after noon, plus a 5 day split with weights and a good diet, you'll get ripped in now time

**Tren Bull** · 02-13-2006, 11:22 PM

id say you should hit the weights hard for a few weeks, then try doing a light cycle of test enanthate and equi. 250 mgs a week of test, and 300 mgs a week of equi for 10 weeks would defineately add some size to you. first of all its very important to run an anti estrogen drug like tomoxifen, letrozole or arimidex (any one will do). second, pct stands for post cycle therapy . thats just a fancy way of saying what drugs you take after your cycle ends. its pretty universal to take clomid about 3 weeks after your last shot(assuming you ran a long lasting type of gear). this causes your body to start producing natural testosterone , which helps you keep your gains.

SVTMuscle* · 02-13-2006, 11:27 PM

tren bull.... bad bad man, come on now your instigating a complete newbie to jump on a cycle already.

**i love my s2k** · 02-13-2006, 11:33 PM

Im going to see what happens in 30 days.I loose weight very fast i lost 10lbs just this week by eating right and 100 oz or so off water and hydroxycut.
I agree i not ready for it either.. but i think after 30 days i would like to try it out im not looking to stay on this stuff 1 or 2 cycles and i done

Thanks to everyone you gave me some good info and a general idea of what im de****g with.

Thanks everyone

**Tren Bull** · 02-13-2006, 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by SVTMuscle

tren bull.... bad bad man, come on now your instigating a complete newbie to jump on a cycle already.

yea i feel guilty about encouraging him, but the reality is that hes probably gonna do it anyway.

SVTMuscle* · 02-13-2006, 11:38 PM

yeah i know, and ppl wonder why AAS gets a bad name.
S2k im not trying to sound like a twat or anything, but i just feel that AAS shouldnt be touched by someone without numerous years and research under their belt

**i love my s2k** · 02-13-2006, 11:46 PM

No i totally understand where your coming from. Im soaking up as much info as i can.I believe you that its something that you should take when you have been working out for a long period of time.

I do wanna do it i wont lie and i pry will but if i dont think that it would be the right thing to do then i wont after a period of time within a month or two.
The research your right i have no clue what any of this stuff does.I have read about the side affect but 1 or 2 cycles the side affects are not that bad or long term.

Thanks for being concerned and im not being a smart ass saying that either

SVTMuscle* · 02-14-2006, 12:11 AM

What would be a great start for you, if going to the steroid profile forum section, and read up on the basic's like Test E, Deca , Anavar , EQ, Test Prop, Sust, and D-Bol. Get a common knowledge for those and PCT products like Nolva, Clomid, and liver protection like Milk Thistle and you'll have the ball in motion

**Tren Bull** · 02-14-2006, 12:16 AM

research is defineately important, but the most important thing in the mean time is that you get everything else in check. eating 30-40 grams of protein and about 50 grams of complex carbs at least every 4 hours is imperative. if you dont eat right you simply will not grow. pm me if you've got any questions about your lifting routine. im not a personal trainer, but i could help you figure out an effective routine

**Tren Bull** · 02-14-2006, 12:18 AM

btw, i really think equi would be ideal for you when you eventually start cycling. it gives solid gains that are easy to keep, plus its one of the safest kinds of gear you can run.

**i love my s2k** · 02-14-2006, 12:27 AM

Thanks guys Tren Bull i will get with you in 30 days and ill see how things are going.

As for now im going to hit the gym as much as possible.As for my diet-eating habbits,my mom is a health freak so she kinda hooks me up with the food.
My day ussually goes with a protein bar in the am,s salad with grilled chicken,roman lettuce,red peppers,hard boilled egg whites,cucummbers,and a light ranch dressing,for dinner 1 grilled chicken breast,and steamed veggies.100 oz of water through the day.

i'll continue taking the hydroxycut really dont know if it is doing much or not.

As for in the gym ill run on the treadmill for 45 min,and really besides that i dont have a routine. I have been doing lots of crunches,and push ups and curling the weights i have at home.

**Tren Bull** · 02-14-2006, 12:32 AM

hmm, you should check out the workout section of this forum, they have lots of different workout routines. its a good idea to try to hit everything. having big biceps is cool, as long as the rest of you is proportionatly the same size.

**Tren Bull** · 02-14-2006, 12:34 AM

btw, its best to eat your meals on a schedule, as in immediately when you wake up, then around 4 hours later eat again. basically, your main focus is to lose weight right?