I have a REAL problem.. (help quickly!)

**Rolsroyce** · 02-18-2006, 09:51 AM

bro, agree about respecting your parents. Maybe you should just level with them and tell them you are using hormones and try to make them understand that it can be done safely and thank her for the blood test appointment and tell her it saves you from making it yourself which you were going to do after this cycle. Whats the worst thing that can happen? Your folks are not going to call the cops on you , right? I guess they could pull your funds but then you can get student loans like lots of other people do to get through school.Its not the end of the world but you need to take a stand some day. Its your life and your decision.Good luck bro...

**vein-x** · 02-18-2006, 09:58 AM

I really don't think she's all THAT suspicious, and from what I understand you have to pay extra for testosterone testing. I doubt she did that, plus it's not like she's having an Olympic commitee come to my room and strap me down and test me for steroids .

Truth be told, I think she just wants to see if I'm going to be OK because once I'm out of college I'm 200% on my own and she wants to 'see how she raised me.' I sort of think of it as a FINAL CHECK-UP before I move on in life. When your a child you go to the doc's a couple times a year. Like I said I haven't been in the past 2.5 years and I think she just wants to see how I'm doing as far as overall health before I step into health for the rest of my life.

I hope I'll be alright, but in the meantime, any other ideas?
(post anything you want, I'm still just looking for a couple more opinions)

**vein-x** · 02-18-2006, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by Rolsroyce

bro, agree about respecting your parents. Maybe you should just level with them and tell them you are using hormones and try to make them understand that it can be done safely and thank her for the blood test appointment and tell her it saves you from making it yourself which you were going to do after this cycle. Whats the worst thing that can happen? Your folks are not going to call the cops on you , right? I guess they could pull your funds but then you can get student loans like lots of other people do to get through school.Its not the end of the world but you need to take a stand some day. Its your life and your decision.Good luck bro...

Thanks a lot bro, I appreciate the honesty.

But as far as 'admitting' to her about anything, the only thing I'll confess to is 1-AD or M1T if it comes down to it.. and that's even IF I get my T-levels checked, which at this point I doubt. (But that's probably just my mind being optimistic)

**cb25** · 02-18-2006, 10:04 AM

i'm very close with my mom and dad, but i wouldn't give them my medical reports -- and i'm not even on anything - my levels are near ideal...i just don't feel it's necessary for them to see, even if they asked. i would just go, then report to them what i was told -- or just that i was fine.

secondly, are you even sure they'd be testing for testosterone ? most physicals (at least the regular ones i've had) don't test for testosterone unless you're older, or have specifically requested it (or there's reason to believe they should be checking them -- i.e. you're reporting puberty-like problems, or you're extremely lethargic, losing weight, etc).

chances are they'll test for kidney and liver function, a CBC -- the normal gamut of blood tests. unless your mom has specifically spoken to the doc about test levels. either way they need to disclose that to you if you ask. like everyone has said, the HIPAA (privacy) rules are pretty strict nowadays.

couple options

1) tell your mom you have a conflict that day and call the doc's office to reschedule a couple weeks out from there. that way you keep the appointment but postpone it a bit to let your body normalize. whatever you do, don't just miss the appointment. that looks bad to your mom and screws up the doc's schedule that day. even if you call a couple days ahead and say something's come up and reschedule for a while later. whatever it takes.

2) you can go in and hope that he doesn't check your test levels...all others should theortetically be near normal (maybe slightly elevated).

3) you can go in and be honest with your doc...tell him what's going on, tell him that you'd like a blood test, but that you'd prefer not to check test/estrogen levels. they can't test things without your consent.

4) tell your mom that you don't appreciate her scheduling appointments for you, etc. that you will see the doc on your own terms, and you will call to schedule it yourself.

good luck man...

**vein-x** · 02-18-2006, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by cb25

i'm very close with my mom and dad, but i wouldn't give them my medical reports -- and i'm not even on anything - my levels are near ideal...i just don't feel it's necessary for them to see, even if they asked. i would just go, then report to them what i was told -- or just that i was fine.

secondly, are you even sure they'd be testing for testosterone ? most physicals (at least the regular ones i've had) don't test for testosterone unless you're older, or have specifically requested it (or there's reason to believe they should be checking them -- i.e. you're reporting puberty-like problems, or you're extremely lethargic, losing weight, etc).

chances are they'll test for kidney and liver function, a CBC -- the normal gamut of blood tests. unless your mom has specifically spoken to the doc about test levels. either way they need to disclose that to you if you ask. like everyone has said, the HIPAA (privacy) rules are pretty strict nowadays.

couple options

1) tell your mom you have a conflict that day and call the doc's office to reschedule a couple weeks out from there. that way you keep the appointment but postpone it a bit to let your body normalize. whatever you do, don't just miss the appointment. that looks bad to your mom and screws up the doc's schedule that day. even if you call a couple days ahead and say something's come up and reschedule for a while later. whatever it takes.

2) you can go in and hope that he doesn't check your test levels...all others should theortetically be near normal (maybe slightly elevated).

3) you can go in and be honest with your doc...tell him what's going on, tell him that you'd like a blood test, but that you'd prefer not to check test/estrogen levels. they can't test things without your consent.

4) tell your mom that you don't appreciate her scheduling appointments for you, etc. that you will see the doc on your own terms, and you will call to schedule it yourself.

good luck man...

Hey thanks a lot bud. I appreciate the mature, realistic suggestions I'm getting today. When I first posted this I had a couple 15 year olds telling me to get bent and sh*t that wasn't helping. True, I was a little more stressed before and I've calmed down a significant amount, but you have to take a second and look through my eyes.

Again, I highly appreciate these thoughts and suggestions, especially the latest one by CB25. Keep them coming bros, and before you know it this thread will be yesterday's news. Thanks again.. I don't know what I'd do without this board.

**cb25** · 02-18-2006, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by vein-x

I don't know what I'd do without this board.

we've all been there man, even if we won't admit it. (needing this board for advice, help, etc)

you'll be fine...let us know how you decide to handle it.

**vein-x** · 02-21-2006, 02:51 PM

One final bump to get a few last suggestions.

An update on what I've done: I skipped my last Thursday EQ/Test E injection and yesterdays. That's two injections skipped to date. I plan on skipping Thursday's (to drop levels a little more) and then run Prop @ 150mg/EOD next week, just to stabilize my Test out and give me a final week to go balls to the wall with my training. After that, Clomid and Nolva for 4-5 weeks and then.. I'm officially OFF-CYCLE :'(

I hope I haven't screwed myself up too bad so far? I feel fine, but obviously there are things that can't be felt that need to be monitored. Thanks to anyone with any other ideas, but like I said, I think I'm just going to follow my layout and ride out the cycle as smooth as possible.