The best way to take TEST E ? What`s your opinon?

[daspaceman]

Hello guys,

Thanks to you I changed my mind for the first cycle and changed my idea of an Equipoise only cycle, to a first cycle including Test as the base steroid .

Something about me : I`ve been lifting for 11years and i`m currently 6foot7,261lbs@around 18-20% bfat. I will cut down to 10-12% bfat naturally (I do it every year) then i will start my first lean bulk cycle, just in time for summer

I was thinking of a 10-12week cycle of TEST E @400-500/week + 0.25Amex throught the whole cycle. I was speaking with a friend who is very much into bbuilding (he`s a trainer) and he said that my cycle sucks as Amex kills a lot of the estrogen in the body. He proposed the cycle below and said that estrogen levels will be in check without any anti-E`s

500-700 Test E every 10 days
200-300 Masteron every 4th day
3 Tabs of proviron throught the cycle
(optional) 1000mg Eq every 16thday
HCG 1000 every week

I`m asking you, What do you think of his proposed cycle? for me it seems a lot for a newbie like me. He said that a test +Amex cycle will only tickle my muscles and wont produce anything

Thanks!!

[scotttiger54]

Hello guys,

Thanks to you I changed my mind for the first cycle and changed my idea of an Equipoise only cycle, to a first cycle including Test as the base steroid .

Something about me : I`ve been lifting for 11years and i`m currently 6foot7,261lbs@around 18-20% bfat. I will cut down to 10-12% bfat naturally (I do it every year) then i will start my first lean bulk cycle, just in time for summer

I was thinking of a 10-12week cycle of TEST E @400-500/week + 0.25Amex throught the whole cycle. I was speaking with a friend who is very much into bbuilding (he`s a trainer) and he said that my cycle sucks as Amex kills a lot of the estrogen in the body. He proposed the cycle below and said that estrogen levels will be in check without any anti-E`s

500-700 Test E every 10 days
200-300 Masteron every 4th day
3 Tabs of proviron throught the cycle
(optional) 1000mg Eq every 16thday
HCG 1000 every week

I`m asking you, What do you think of his proposed cycle? for me it seems a lot for a newbie like me. He said that a test +Amex cycle will only tickle my muscles and wont produce anything

Thanks!!

yes it is to much for a beginner. stick to your plans of a test only cycle with dosages around 500mg. don't forget about proper pct! hcg is optional but is not a staple with a beg cycle. i will however, not deny hcg is a useful element in any pre-pct regiment

[daspaceman]

Thanks for your answer.

I`m going to use A-dex as a precaution as i have a small gyno on my right nipp. :

Is 1/4 tab enough to keep estrogenic levels not too high?

Will A+dex hinder my gains? I`m looking for some bulk but with minimal bloat. Is nolva better at this?

Thanks!

[daspaceman]

more opinions welcome

[1819]

yes it is to much for a beginner. stick to your plans of a test only cycle with dosages around 500mg. don't forget about proper pct! hcg is optional but is not a staple with a beg cycle. i will however, not deny hcg is a useful element in any pre-pct regiment

maybe go with the 500mg every week though, instead of every 10 days.

[IBdmfkr]

Hello guys,

Thanks to you I changed my mind for the first cycle and changed my idea of an Equipoise only cycle, to a first cycle including Test as the base steroid .

Something about me : I`ve been lifting for 11years and i`m currently 6foot7,261lbs@around 18-20% bfat. I will cut down to 10-12% bfat naturally (I do it every year) then i will start my first lean bulk cycle, just in time for summer

I was thinking of a 10-12week cycle of TEST E @400-500/week + 0.25Amex throught the whole cycle. I was speaking with a friend who is very much into bbuilding (he`s a trainer) and he said that my cycle sucks as Amex kills a lot of the estrogen in the body. He proposed the cycle below and said that estrogen levels will be in check without any anti-E`s

500-700 Test E every 10 days
200-300 Masteron every 4th day
3 Tabs of proviron throught the cycle
(optional) 1000mg Eq every 16thday
HCG 1000 every week

I`m asking you, What do you think of his proposed cycle? for me it seems a lot for a newbie like me. He said that a test +Amex cycle will only tickle my muscles and wont produce anything

Thanks!!

Your buddies proposed cycle doesn't even really make sense for a beginner let alone experienced user.

Test E every 10days? It will be starting to clear the body at that time, blood levels will be all over the place (worse sides, gyno/acne/water retention etc.)

Masteron is used by a more experienced BB with a very low BF to see results, why would he suggest this to a newbie who is looking to get started and has no need for a precomp drug like this. Again, doesn't make sense.

Eq at 1000mg every 16th day, same comments as TestE. Too long inbetween shots.

HCG makes sense but I'm not sure what he is suggesting for the proviron.

I'd stick with the 500mg/wk of Test and see how you react to a single compound. Best of luck.

[magic32]

Your buddies proposed cycle doesn't even really make sense for a beginner let alone experienced user.

Test E every 10days? It will be starting to clear the body at that time, blood levels will be all over the place (worse sides, gyno/acne/water retention etc.)

Masteron is used by a more experienced BB with a very low BF to see results, why would he suggest this to a newbie who is looking to get started and has no need for a precomp drug like this. Again, doesn't make sense.

Eq at 1000mg every 16th day, same comments as TestE. Too long inbetween shots.

HCG makes sense but I'm not sure what he is suggesting for the proviron .

I'd stick with the 500mg/wk of Test and see how you react to a single compound. Best of luck.

I agree with this.

You picked a very common newbie cycle, but Test E levels are only elevated for eight days. Ten would be like virtually starting over.

L-dex won't significantly hinder your cycle. Tell your friend people run Anti-E's in cycles quite frequently. Often to relieve bloat or to prevent gyno.

M.

[goalseeker]

Your buddies proposed cycle doesn't even really make sense for a beginner let alone experienced user.

Test E every 10days? It will be starting to clear the body at that time, blood levels will be all over the place (worse sides, gyno/acne/water retention etc.)

Masteron is used by a more experienced BB with a very low BF to see results, why would he suggest this to a newbie who is looking to get started and has no need for a precomp drug like this. Again, doesn't make sense.

Eq at 1000mg every 16th day, same comments as TestE. Too long inbetween shots.

HCG makes sense but I'm not sure what he is suggesting for the proviron .

I'd stick with the 500mg/wk of Test and see how you react to a single compound. Best of luck.

I agree with IBD... 500 test/wk, 250 on Monday, 250 on Thursday....you really cant go wrong with this cycle....

[thebison]

keep it simple for first cycle. to many people make the mistake of doing to much. i know i did.

[goalseeker]

keep it simple for first cycle. to many people make the mistake of doing to much. i know i did.

..exactly....

[daspaceman]

Thanks very much for your answers


Should i use just nolva for 4 weeks for PCT after 14days from my last test injection or should i continue to take A+dex till the end of my PCT together with nolva?

Last question; Do i need Clomid as well or i`ll be fine with just nolva for PCT?

[J0E]

mudmans cycle of test e... great cycle

1 – 10 Enan 500mg/wk
1 – 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED

2 wks after last injection start pct.
Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
Day 2 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
Day 31 - 37 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex

[daspaceman]

Thanks ! All problems solved

Cant wait to start my first cycle, will be in may/jun 2006, will post a cycle log

[IBdmfkr]

Best of luck, prepare to grow like a weed. Make damn sure your diet is in check to take full advantage of the anabolics.

[daspaceman]

Thanks IBdmfkr! I want to grow like a tree instead

Lately i`ve seen and read about people incorporating a small dose of T3 throught the cycle, for eample 25mcg (even though it`s a bulker). What are your ideas and dosages about this??

[IBdmfkr]

I ALWAYS include T3 at 25mcg/day when using either Tren or GH with my cycle. Otherwise I'd not worry about it.