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    deca & d-ball for Summer?

    6' 205lb 15%bf

    There are flames for this one, but I need advice. Been lifting 5 years diet is in check. I got some sydgroup deca 10/300 and had some d-ball from a previous cycle. I know I need test but I cant seem to get any. My pct is clomid and letro. My plan is to kickstart my deca cycle with dball then take the d-ball(10mg) through out my 10 week deca cycle(400mg). My goal is to cut with what ive got which i know is the wrong cycle, but I gotta work with what Ive got. Any advice?
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    Don't bother doing that cycle at all it's a complete waste of time, money, and gear!

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    my advice would be to not run that cycle...why even risk gettin deca dick....u give a pretty general dosing. 100-400? pick a dose and stick to it...get some test and cut with that....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ynot_5_0
    Don't bother doing that cycle at all it's a complete waste of time, money, and gear!
    il have to disagree there, and offer another opinion on the course. my first course i ran deca 200mg EW for 12 weeks, along with dbol , 30-50mg ED. i felt great on the cycle, had no libido problems and the gains were the best ive had. it would be better if you could get test in the mix, but i dont think its a waste of gear without. try and get some test from somewhere my mate.

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    I made a mistake on my deca doses its 400mg

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    10mg of d-bol ed is hardly worth doing even for a novice and deca you really have to feed to see good benifits from so cutting with this is impossible - not to mention the puffy look it gives from water weight. Also, without Test you'll get nasty deca dick.
    At 15% body fat you could cut with cardio and dieting and have an imporved summer look.

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    I understand what you saying nathanlgd but my diet is high protien and very clean as far as cardio I have slacked their. 2xweek 45 min. but im going to start bringing that up with some treadmill and boxing

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    Timm1704 your gains were they solid or alot of water?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timm1704
    il have to disagree there, and offer another opinion on the course. my first course i ran deca 200mg EW for 12 weeks, along with dbol, 30-50mg ED. i felt great on the cycle, had no libido problems and the gains were the best ive had. it would be better if you could get test in the mix, but i dont think its a waste of gear without. try and get some test from somewhere my mate.

    and i have to disagree with you

    my first cycle was a deca 200mg and d,bol 30mg cycle and i felt like shit had major libido problems that dident even get sorted after pct

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    Quote Originally Posted by stocky121
    and i have to disagree with you

    my first cycle was a deca 200mg and d,bol 30mg cycle and i felt like shit had major libido problems that dident even get sorted after pct
    Did you take test to get your libido strait or did it come back naturaly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donpinn
    Did you take test to get your libido strait or did it come back naturaly.

    i done another cycle that did have test in at after that PCT my libido came back in full

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    Quote Originally Posted by stocky121
    i done another cycle that did have test in at after that PCT my libido came back in full
    Which test would you recomend for the least bloating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donpinn
    Which test would you recomend for the least bloating.

    test prop but that need's to injected every other day minimum

    is this your first cycle ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by stocky121
    test prop but that need's to injected every other day minimum

    is this your first cycle ??
    no I took a dball cycle my fist time then a winny.

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    yah, my first cycle was a deca /d-ball. What a waste. Gained pretty much all water weight, had libido probs, as well as emotional crap (from the deca). Don't do it, bro. Just my .02.

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