test lvls 6,269 but i have no sex drive

**flyhalf** · 03-28-2006, 03:02 PM

just got my blood test results back the other day

test 6,269
test free 204.5
liver and kidneys are both good

last cycle 500mg test e per week
400mg eq per week for 12 weeks

current cycle 750mg test e
600mg eq
started cycle with 5 weeks of prop 100mg eod
after 5 weeks i stopped prop and did dbol for 4 week
i am now in week 12 of just test e and eq.

question: my test lvls are high but i dont have much of a sex drive. the other night half way into screwing i go soft (not limp just soft).

i lift mon,tues, thurs, fri. i play rugby on tue, thurs, and sat. do you think im over worked? i do wake up pretty tired alot of time.

**flyhalf** · 03-28-2006, 03:09 PM

also im 28 and this is my second cycle, my first was last year. i did proper pct with clomid and nolva.

**flyhalf** · 03-28-2006, 03:14 PM

bump

**flyhalf** · 03-28-2006, 03:22 PM

you gotta be kidding, no one has anything to say?

**Maetenloch** · 03-28-2006, 04:47 PM

This is more proof that libido is more than just test levels. Here are a couple of things you can try to get your libido back:
1. Check your total estrogen levels. Sometimes having a T/E ratio that's too low can mimic low test levels. Start taking an AI.
2. Up your test dose and lower your EQ.
3. Start taking HCG (~1000iu/week). For me this makes a huge difference in keeping my libido up on a longer cycle. Plus it makes recovery much easier.
4. Add in proviron (50mg - 100mg/day). This seems to help a lot of guys too.

**tripmachine** · 03-28-2006, 07:50 PM

3. Start taking HCG (~1000iu/week). For me this makes a huge difference in keeping my libido up on a longer cycle. Plus it makes recovery much easier.

so regarding the HCG would you just do one shot a week at 1000 iu's per shot?? I am having the same kind of problems that flyhalf is having.... please let us know... we don't need to not finish properly!! ;] thanks again

**Maetenloch** · 03-28-2006, 11:11 PM

Originally Posted by tripmachine

3. Start taking HCG (~1000iu/week). For me this makes a huge difference in keeping my libido up on a longer cycle. Plus it makes recovery much easier.

so regarding the HCG would you just do one shot a week at 1000 iu's per shot?? I am having the same kind of problems that flyhalf is having.... please let us know... we don't need to not finish properly!! ;] thanks again

I usually break it up over 3 days - other guys do two shots of 500iu each.

**testosterona** · 03-28-2006, 11:16 PM

are you taking any finasteride or DHT blockers at all?

**IBdmfkr** · 03-29-2006, 12:20 AM

Originally Posted by flyhalf

you gotta be kidding, no one has anything to say?

You realize there was an eight minute split between your two posts.

Your Test levels were extremly high but where were your estrogen levels? More than likely the problem.

**tullemus** · 03-29-2006, 09:30 AM

Jep my answer to that to, like IBdmfkr said more likely it is estrogen levels so

2. Up your test dose and lower your EQ.

wouldnt be wise without doing some AI if estrogen is the problem it would get worse..

**cj1capp** · 03-29-2006, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by flyhalf

just got my blood test results back the other day

test 6,269
test free 204.5
liver and kidneys are both good

last cycle 500mg test e per week
400mg eq per week for 12 weeks

current cycle 750mg test e
600mg eq
started cycle with 5 weeks of prop 100mg eod
after 5 weeks i stopped prop and did dbol for 4 week
i am now in week 12 of just test e and eq.

question: my test lvls are high but i dont have much of a sex drive. the other night half way into screwing i go soft (not limp just soft).

i lift mon,tues, thurs, fri. i play rugby on tue, thurs, and sat. do you think im over worked? i do wake up pretty tired alot of time.

my test level on cycle this was for free test was 39,800. i was always ready to "get busy"

**flyhalf** · 03-30-2006, 01:06 AM

should i start taking nolva until i get hgc and should i drop my eq doen to 400 per week?

**IBdmfkr** · 03-30-2006, 01:13 AM

Get some cialis. I wouldn't go changing compounds. OR get an AI/SERM and run it to reduce estrogen levels.
Yes, take nolva. Start with 60mg/day and taper down to 20mg/day and keep it there.

**flyhalf** · 03-30-2006, 01:23 AM

when you say start with 60 and taper down to 20, what are we talking 60, 40, then 20 for 6 more weeks? or 60 this week drop down to 40 next week then 20 for the rest of my cycle? whats a good ai ive never taken it?

**IBdmfkr** · 03-30-2006, 01:33 AM

When I get signs of gyno I will usually do 60mg for a few days until it subsides and then drop it to 40 and then 20. So I'm guessing do the same until you can get your unit hard. lol Suprised you don't have any gyno flaring up.

**flyhalf** · 03-30-2006, 02:18 AM

ok how does this sound next 4 days im gonna run 60mg nolva, sat when i take my shot im gonna drop the eq 1/2 cc and add 1/2 cc of test (1000mg test///400mg eq per week for the rest of my cycle which is 6 weeks). after 4 days of nolva at 60mg i will drop to 40mg for 4 days then down to 20 mgs throughout my cycle and pct. sound right?

**IBdmfkr** · 03-30-2006, 02:25 AM

Yes with nolva

No with changing cycle. Don't fluctuate dosages, with the long half-lives it won't make any difference except give you worse sides. More than likely the problem is your estrogen is through the roof since you decided it was a good idea not to run SERM's during cycle, this needs to be dealt with and you should return to normal. let us know how it goes. Live and learn. Don't make this mistake next time around