1st Cycle Critique plz

**daft1425** · 03-28-2006, 10:35 PM

hey guys, to start off with here are my stats, 22 years old, 5 foot 7 around 185lbs, body fat i have no idea,
cycle goals - bulker, reach 200lbs
anyway here goes,

wk 1-12 500mg/wk test enanthate
300mg on mon, 200mg on thurs

PCT(for 4 weeks or until everythings back up)--- 2 weeks after last shot of enan,
Clomid -day 1 300mg
day 2-11 100mg ed
day 12-21 50 mg ed
Nolva - 20mg ed

shud i run nolva during a cycle? i've had friends who've been on cycles before that say nolva shud be used only in PCT or when any signs of gyno occur, also ive heard nolva limits gains on a cycle.

**C_Bino** · 03-28-2006, 10:42 PM

Yes you can run nolva the whole way though the cycle...should you? Well that all depends if you are prone to gyno and estro related sides. Since its your first cycle you may want to experiment to see how prone you are and go without it. But make sure you have it on hand. It looks like a good modest first cycle, however inject 250mg each injection not 300 and 200. Keep it consistent, I cant stress this enough.
Also you said PCT was 4 weeks (or until recovered), which I commend you on for doing research and not limiting yourself, but I see you only listen days 1-21...thats three weeks. Whats up with that?
Anyways it looks good other than what I mentioned. Good luck with it.

**testosterona** · 03-28-2006, 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by daft1425

hey guys, to start off with here are my stats, 22 years old, 5 foot 7 around 185lbs, body fat i have no idea,
cycle goals - bulker, reach 200lbs
anyway here goes,

wk 1-12 500mg/wk test enanthate
300mg on mon, 200mg on thurs

PCT(for 4 weeks or until everythings back up)--- 2 weeks after last shot of enan,
Clomid -day 1 300mg
day 2-11 100mg ed
day 12-21 50 mg ed
Nolva - 20mg ed

shud i run nolva during a cycle? i've had friends who've been on cycles before that say nolva shud be used only in PCT or when any signs of gyno occur, also ive heard nolva limits gains on a cycle.

i agree w/ your friends that you should save the nolva for when sides are observed and PCT. but i always run an AI to stay dry and prevent sides. cycle looks good expect id shoot 250/250 not 200/300, but this is pretty minor. also, i'm not a fan of clomid and esp 300mgs the first day.....thsi is not needed and may only bring on extra side effects caused by such a high dose of clomid.

**keith hackney** · 03-29-2006, 03:12 PM

why are the shots 300 and 200? 250 and 250 would make more sense. as far as the nolva goes, do what you want, be careful and definitely have plenty available for the cycle and pct.

**Swifto** · 03-29-2006, 03:14 PM

250 x2 per week is best. It will keep blood plasma concentrations nice and stable, reducing sides.

Keep the Nolva on hand an run it if sides arise.

**nattyboy** · 03-29-2006, 03:26 PM

250x2 sounds best
ive also heard that nolva limits gains, cant give u nemore info on it lol

**daft1425** · 03-29-2006, 03:32 PM

aright thnx alot for all the help guyz, i was thinkin of takin 300/200 cuz the dose is 300mg/ml so it looked easier lol, so i guess ill have to take .83 of a ml x2
any1 have ne info about if nolva (if used during a cycle) limits gains