first cutter cycle coming up

[anaBROLIC]

hey guys, as its posted in my pct journal i am almost 2 weeks into pct. so i am now thinking towards the future and starting to draft out my summer cycle. i want to run what i would consider my first non bulker. i was thinking of making it shorter then what im used to as well. looking for a little bit of help from some of you guys that run similar cycles on opinions and experiences. just looking for a critique in the combination im thinking of putting together. currently at 195lbs 11-13%bf roughly.

60mgs anavar
100mgs prop
50mgs tren a
50mgs winny

thats about the dosages i have been thinking of per day. i have not done tren, winny or anavar before so i dont think i want to over do it on dosages.
not sure how long i want to break them down to as far as weeks go. im thinking i only want to run it 8-10 weeks.
opinions please.

[TheMudMan]

I would at least run the tren 10 weeks........ you can save some money by dropping the ver. Good diet, cardio, and tren will lean you out pretty good.

HCG would be a good idea to add to the cycle at some point.

1 - 12 100mgs prop ED
1 - 10 50mgs tren a ED
7 - 12 50mgs winny ED
1 - 10 Letro .5mg ED
1 - 12 Vit B6 200mg ED
10 - 12 Nolva 20mg ED

Start PCT 3 days after last Prop injection and run for a minimum of 30 days
Day 1 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex / 200mg B6

[IBdmfkr]

Give us a ex. cycle you were thinking of and we'll tweek it anabrolic.

Also, since you haven't tried any of those compounds I wouldn't put them all together, you won't know which you respond well to and which you do not. I don't introduce more then 2compounds per cycle. Usually just one.

Here's an Ex. with what you have listed though
1-8 Var 60mg/day
1-10 Prop 100mg/day
1-8 Tren 50mg/day
I'd drop the Winny. Not long enough cycle to put it to use.
Yea like Mudman said. 200mgB6/day
Also I'd run 12.5-25mcg T3/day wks 1-8

[anaBROLIC]

Give us a ex. cycle you were thinking of and we'll tweek it anabrolic.

Also, since you haven't tried any of those compounds I wouldn't put them all together, you won't know which you respond well to and which you do not. I don't introduce more then 2compounds per cycle. Usually just one.

Here's an Ex. with what you have listed though
1-8 Var 60mg/day
1-10 Prop 100mg/day
1-8 Tren 50mg/day
I'd drop the Winny. Not long enough cycle to put it to use.
Yea like Mudman said. 200mgB6/day
Also I'd run 12.5-25mcg T3/day wks 1-8

thanks for the advice but i dont know if i agree with not knowing how well my body is with each. i have run prop before and if i run the anavar and winny they will be at different times not together. its teh tren i worry about. i know alot of people discontinue the usage of it from side effects being too bad to handle. so if i for some reason which i hope doesnt happen that i need to drop it i still want to have a solid cycle.

[anaBROLIC]

so far i like mudmans ideas as he planned out the weeks. i think i am still going to add the var for the first 4.

[IBdmfkr]

I was working with 10wks, I don't think 4wks is long enough for var btw.
Also I wouldn't squeeze all those compounds in 10wks, the Var and Winny would overlap, pretty hard on the liver.

[Hellmaskbanned]

Why introduce 3 new compounds at once? You won't know whats helping and whats causing problems.

[TheMudMan]

4 weeks of var is a waste of $$$$

[Hellmaskbanned]

4 weeks of var is a waste of $$$$

True dat. Need atleast 6 with a pretty high dosage.

[topvega]

I use to be of the mindset that a cutting cycle was almost entirely diet dependent.... but since running tren -a and prop I can say that those two compounds cut me up nice.... and no my diet wasn't super strict at all... so now I am a believer in the fact that certain compunds can really aid in a cutting cycle.... I am not into anavar but what about a prop/tren-a/anavar cycle? If u have the cash u cld run the var just about the whole cycle and it wld be alot kinder on your liver then winny?

[anaBROLIC]

I use to be of the mindset that a cutting cycle was almost entirely diet dependent.... but since running tren-a and prop I can say that those two compounds cut me up nice.... and no my diet wasn't super strict at all... so now I am a believer in the fact that certain compunds can really aid in a cutting cycle.... I am not into anavar but what about a prop/tren-a/anavar cycle? If u have the cash u cld run the var just about the whole cycle and it wld be alot kinder on your liver then winny?

good posibility especially since i can get var pretty cheap from my guy.

its tough tho, some guys say drop the winny others say drop the var.

[IBdmfkr]

Try it one way and then in another cycle try it with the other.. Each individual is different and you may respond very well to one and not so well to another. After that run it with both etc.. Trial and error.

[anaBROLIC]

ya i think i wanna wait on the winny. since i know tren sides are tough and i have issues sometimes with hair loss.