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    Make me feel better

    Alrite.... im on my first cycle now consistsing of dbola nd sust....and ironically my parents thought im taking roids before I ever got them....i promised them i didint..which was true... but now i am...anyway my mom talked to a doc and he told her.... he hopes im not doing it.... because playing with hormones can and most probably will messyou up for life....she gave me few examples of not able to have kids, cancer, other hormonal stuff....


    is this stuff true? or is it only true if ur not taking it correctly?
    cause its kinda messsing with my head.... i dont want to regret my decision later on in life

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    LOL!

    How old are you?
    What are your stats?

    You sound very and I mean VERY uneducated about aas. Stay and learn youngone , you will need it.

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    what a loaded ass question....
    the answer is yes and no...
    steroids themselves have never been directly associated with cancer risks, although elevated androgens without proper prostate protection CAN possibly lead to an increased risk of high psa values. a couple cycle over a lifetime will probably not cause your prostate to blow up on you.
    as far as having kids and other hormonally related sides, do proper pct and this is not an issue at all


    to tell you the truth, you dont seem to know nearly enough about gear to be legitimately using it if you are still even wondering about these side effects. visit the pct forum, finish your cycle, then commence the learning. dont start cycling again until you know EXACTLY what you are getting into bro, this stuff is too intense to risk without knowledge

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    LOL!

    How old are you?
    What are your stats?

    You sound very and I mean VERY uneducated about aas. Stay and learn youngone , you will need it.
    haha exactly what i was thinking!

    dont worry serbianstallion, you will figure it all out. and if you dont believe us, there is always pubmed.com. i put together a research paper from that site that had 30 people convinced they needed to be on steroids lol!

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    and sus is a mild steroid with minimal side effects if any so do ur research and u will put urself at eas and if its first cycle u really dont need the d-bol if ur really worried just take the sus u will still have great gaines bro trust me

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    Thanks guys...appreciate it!

    I researched it....I asked alot of questions...i know about proper dosage, usage, pct, side effects...but the doctor thing still scared me.... i mean they do it too... in form of HRT.... now i know its dose is minimal... but its still "playing with hormones"

    so far im only interested in doing this one cycle.... i just needed 15-20 pounds to put me in my happy place and ill work hard to stay there...

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    Thanks guys...appreciate it!

    I researched it....I asked alot of questions...i know about proper dosage, usage, pct, side effects...but the doctor thing still scared me.... i mean they do it too... in form of HRT.... now i know its dose is minimal... but its still "playing with hormones"

    so far im only interested in doing this one cycle.... i just needed 15-20 pounds to put me in my happy place and ill work hard to stay there...
    in all honesty many doctors have less information on aas use than we do, unless they specialize in that department it seems they all parrot the media garbage!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pumpd4lif
    and sus is a mild steroid with minimal side effects if any so do ur research and u will put urself at eas and if its first cycle u really dont need the d-bol if ur really worried just take the sus u will still have great gaines bro trust me
    Sus is a mild steroid ??? Never hurd that........

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    My brother is in med school right now. It is funny, all they are taught about AAS is completely negative and for recreational or athletic use they are given a list of steroid products and their side effects.... BIASED

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmya73
    in all honesty many doctors have less information on aas use than we do, unless they specialize in that department it seems they all parrot the media garbage!
    Good point, at least this kid is on this site, a wealth of infomation is at his finger tips

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    Quote Originally Posted by pumpd4lif
    and sus is a mild steroid with minimal side effects if any so do ur research and u will put urself at eas and if its first cycle u really dont need the d-bol if ur really worried just take the sus u will still have great gaines bro trust me

    Alot of people will parott info they have read but u just come up with your own wacky shit bro........ Stop commenting on shit u obviously know nothing about...... If this was the first time u passed on some bad info it wld be one thing but u have had quite a few of these posts that show your lack of knowledge on aas and aas usage.... spend more time reading on here and less time typing....

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    uhh! I read that in several articals i would not tell some1 something just for say sake.sus has minimal side effects if any when taking in small doses like 250 mg per week.and that is good enough for a 1st timer u will still have great gaines
    asuming is for woman and cops.!!(Stop commenting on shit u obviously know nothing abou)really am i the only 1 who has read this.But like any test it is never 100% safe to put any kinda test in ur body everthing comes with risks my statements on sus i got from doing research i would never give some1 false info that is just rechless .

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    However, unlike other testosterone compounds such as cypionate and enanthate , the use of Sustanon leads to less water retention and less estrogenic side effects.

    i will get u some more info on sus to help u out and to show that im no idiot i do my research.

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    However, unlike other testosterone compounds such as cypionate and enanthate , the use of Sustanon leads to less water retention and less estrogenic side effects.

    i will get u some more info on sus to help u out and to show that im no idiot i do my research.
    no, vega is right...you are making some dumbass statements. just quit. sustanon is test, a 4 ester blend, with two shorter and two longer esters, and the potential for bloat and any and all side effects is the same. people will react in a slightly differently mannner to anything, but for the most part unless one is shooting sust eod it will act almost identically to an enanthate or cypionate. and your wording is also incorrect, if sustanon is a mild steroid , then test cypionate,propionate , andropen , and so on would ALL also be mild steroids . sustanon is the same steroid as test enanathate, it just has a differenet ester. and testosterone is hardly a mild steroid.

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    im not saying there r no side effects.im jusy saying the things ive read in my reaserch and ive found as much bad as i did good about it.The acute intramuscular toxicity of Sustanon 250 is very low compared to other test in similar dose.again when ever u put something like test in ur body u always have to be carefull they r all dangeruos. and that post before ur last statement vega was a quote from a medical website. they were not my own words, everything im saying is from research i would not say anything to down play any juice just stating a Quote! and from what i understand the only thing that makes it (not as harsh)is the way it breaks down in ur body, as u stated not all at once. and he is only taking in small doses. all test injected in ur body has the chance of giving u neg side effects plzzz relize that im not giving made up info i def wouldnt want anybody to hurt themselves or think they r immuned to side effects cause of some1,s statement or research. u should always take extra precaution when working with any form of testosterone (i hope punct is better know bro sry)
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerryjuice84
    My brother is in med school right now. It is funny, all they are taught about AAS is completely negative and for recreational or athletic use they are given a list of steroid products and their side effects.... BIASED
    yep. my buddy is in med school, too. heard the same thing

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    alright pumpd,i literally have no idea what you just typed. please edit with some punctuation. not flaming, i literally cant fvcking read it.

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    im not downplaying anything jimmy or vega is saying im just making sure u guys dont think im some moran that just spuse out nonsense again im just stating research info


    sustanon does not convert to estrogen at quite the same rate as it's slower acting counterparts testosterone enanthate and cypionate
    sustanon 250 - is a unique blend of one long ester, one short ester and two medium length esters.
    Sustanon does aromatize, but slightly less than some other single ester testosterones which leads to less water retention when compared to other steroids
    A major concern for many steroid users is liver toxicity. In the case of sustanon, liver toxicity is low except in doses above and beyond the minimum dose required for abuse.

    everything im stating has to do with low (250 500) doses to much of anything is bad and yes just because it is less toxic or do to the way it breaks down makes it more tollerable. by no means do i recomend anybody taking infomation from anybody but a doctor meaning do ur own research everybody finds diff info on it . and sry my typing is very poor : (
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    is all about USING not ABUSING

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2.minutes
    is all about USING not ABUSING

    Yes, so many aas users are using therapeutic dosages in there cycles..... HA!

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    im not downplaying anything jimmy or vega is saying im just making sure u guys dont think im some moran that just spuse out nonsense again im just stating research info
    we gotcha now i think, its seeing a statement like"sustanon is a mild steroid " accompanied by a post count of 70. it just sets off a warning flag. its all good now though

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    yes, so many aas users are using therapeutic dosages in there cycles..... HA

    i <3 the sarcasim

    i was just trying to clear the air on what i was talking about for 1st cycle all i did was 250mg a week for ten weeks by itself an i gained damn near 30 lbs an i read at those doses sus was mild.......sus was not as harsh as other aas when used in this manner by no means did i want to come across like it wasnt toxic to ur body ,sry if i did

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    and no i didnt get info from post ,but that could be misleading to some1 who doesnt know any better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pumpd4lif
    yes, so many aas users are using therapeutic dosages in there cycles..... HA

    i <3 the sarcasim

    i was just trying to clear the air on what i was talking about for 1st cycle all i did was 250mg a week for ten weeks by itself an i gained damn near 30 lbs an i read at those doses sus was mild.......sus was not as harsh as other aas when used in this manner by no means did i want to come across like it wasnt toxic to ur body ,sry if i did

    What are you talking about?

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    u saw a post in here about that i would like to see it were is it ?

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    i was just saying hell that i didnt get my info from a post but from a medical websit thats all

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