Primobolan, my first cycle... questions..

**greg_mck84** · 04-12-2006, 12:26 PM

Hello everyone,

I'm going to be starting my first cycle this Monday. I'm only going to do primobolan for my first time to see how my body reacts to it. I don't really want to do anything too heavy my first time. I've beening working out for about a year, weigh around 150lbs and i'm 22 years old. Can anyone tell me what kind of results I should expect to see?

Thanks,

Greg

**shadyadam** · 04-12-2006, 12:31 PM

Wow man 150? you should look at your diet. I hope while on this cycle you are taking in the cals and protien you need or this cycle will be a waste of money and you wont see shit....

Anyway....

Primo 600MG EW for - 12 Weeks

a simple search got me the answer...use the search function >

**marcus300** · 04-12-2006, 12:32 PM

What results have you had in the year you have been training?

**greg_mck84** · 04-12-2006, 12:37 PM

marcus300,

When I began working out I was a little over 130lbs. By the sounds of what i've researched, I won't see much gain, but it'll harden and form my body. I hear different things from different people.. I've heard i'll gain up to 10 lbs and others say I won't gain much.. I don't know what to believe anymore.

G.

**IBdmfkr** · 04-12-2006, 12:39 PM

I'd say hold off and concentrate on a bulking diet/training. You have much more room to grow naturally... What is your eventual goal? This may help with the decision as well..

**longhorn814** · 04-12-2006, 12:39 PM

i think you need to train naturally for a while and work on your diet and training more. Dont expect much muscle gain from primo, its more of a cutting/hardening drug, but at 150 lbs you cant have much muscle to harden.

**greg_mck84** · 04-12-2006, 12:47 PM

I've gotten to the point now where I can't get much over 150lbs.. My goal is to get to 170lbs. It's frustrating going to the gym 5 - 6 days a week and not seeing any gains. This has been going on since about January. I eat 3 - 4 meals a day and have 3 protein shakes a day. I've already ordered the primo which I should be getting tonight. All I want to do is get to 170lbs as soon as possible and then maintain that weight. I realise obviously that I won't be seing this much gain from Primo. I just wanted to do the primo to start with before I do anything hard. After primo, i'm considering decca and winny or test and winny. I'm also scared of gyno which is another reason why I would prefer to stick with Primo. During puberty I got little pea sized lumps under my nipples.. It is not something that is noticable, but i wouldn't want it to get any worse.

**shadyadam** · 04-12-2006, 12:57 PM

Greg my man at 22 i was 150 i'm 24 now and at 175 (hitting for 180 all natty)
you need to train and eat man...simple as that!

**USfighterFC** · 04-12-2006, 01:01 PM

Train naturally you still can make a ton of progress. Ask Pinnacle for advice on Primo lol.

**greg_mck84** · 04-12-2006, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by USfighterFC

Train naturally you still can make a ton of progress. Ask Pinnacle for advice on Primo lol.

Hahaha I think i'll just leave Pinnacle out of this one. I was trying to get information from the PRIMO LOVERS AND HATERS thread but it just turned into a damn circus hahaha.

What would happen if I started using steriods ? Any steriod , not just primo. If i still have a lot of natural mass to gain, if I went on juice, what would happen? anything?

**longhorn814** · 04-12-2006, 01:07 PM

well you have already given me a good idea that you dont know how to eat to gain weight. Here is a good read on how you should eat to gain

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=113010

If youre dead set on running primo, you need at least 600mg/wk at the bare minimum. Im running 1g/wk right now. All you need to do is eat, which you arent doing correctly yet!

**USfighterFC** · 04-12-2006, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by greg_mck84

Hahaha I think i'll just leave Pinnacle out of this one. I was trying to get information from the PRIMO LOVERS AND HATERS thread but it just turned into a damn circus hahaha.

What would happen if I started using steriods? Any steriod, not just primo. If i still have a lot of natural mass to gain, if I went on juice, what would happen? anything?

Since you dont have a very significant base you will get bigger on steroids but your results would basically just pretty much disappear after you came off. Honestly to me its like 70% dieting.

**greg_mck84** · 04-12-2006, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by longhorn814

well you have already given me a good idea that you dont know how to eat to gain weight. Here is a good read on how you should eat to gain

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=113010

If youre dead set on running primo, you need at least 600mg/wk at the bare minimum. Im running 1g/wk right now. All you need to do is eat, which you arent doing correctly yet!

Alright dude, maybe I gotta change up my diet. I'm getting ancy to get bigger faster. Maybe i'm rushing into it too fast. Another question, how much are you paying for Primo?

**vitor** · 04-12-2006, 01:18 PM

If you are going to run Primo alone, use a gram per week(10 weeks).

Have you researched PCT?

10-14 Days after your last Primo injection, start 20mgs ed Nolva or 50mgs ed Clomid, 1-2g Tribulus ed, until you have fully recovered natty test.

Since you are far under your genetic limit, you can expect good gains, if diet and training is spot on.

**FranKieC** · 04-12-2006, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by shadyadam

Wow man 150? you should look at your diet. I hope while on this cycle you are taking in the cals and protien you need or this cycle will be a waste of money and you wont see shit....

Anyway....

Primo 600MG EW for - 12 Weeks

a simple search got me the answer...use the search function >

Even if his diet isn't on point Primo work well in calorie restricted diets

**AnabolicAndre** · 04-12-2006, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by greg_mck84

Alright dude, maybe I gotta change up my diet. I'm getting ancy to get bigger faster. Maybe i'm rushing into it too fast. Another question, how much are you paying for Primo?

You arent allowed to discuss prices in an open forum, you may want to pm a mod with how much you got it for and they can let you know if thats a legit price, but from what I have seen... Primo is expensive, especially cause you DO have to run it at high doses and for the most part it comes in a 100mg/ml.

**marcus300** · 04-12-2006, 01:25 PM

I feel you could put on alot more weight naturally first before planning a cycle, you have only got 12 months worth of training under your belt and i am sure your diet/training will not all be in order, id concentrate on diet and get some weight on and a good solid base to work from, id say another 12 months hard training and eating there is no short cuts am afraid.

**AnabolicAndre** · 04-12-2006, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by FranKieC

Even if his diet isn't on point Primo work well in calorie restricted diets

Yea but it will work much better is a surplus of cals....

**FranKieC** · 04-12-2006, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by AnabolicAndre

You arent allowed to discuss prices in an open forum, you may want to pm a mod with how much you got it for and they can let you know if thats a legit price, but from what I have seen... Primo is expensive, especially cause you DO have to run it at high doses and for the most part it comes in a 100mg/ml.

You can find 200cc/ml

Mine is but and tested at around 180-185

**greg_mck84** · 04-12-2006, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by vitor

If you are going to run Primo alone, use a gram per week(10 weeks).

Have you researched PCT?

10-14 Days after your last Primo injection, start 20mgs ed Nolva or 50mgs ed Clomid, 1-2g Tribulus ed, until you have fully recovered natty test.

Since you are far under your genetic limit, you can expect good gains, if diet and training is spot on.

So if this is my first time, there is no problem jumping right into the at 1g per week?

And from research that i've done on Nolva, its to control estrogen and gyno. I've also read that Primo will not increase estrogen. Does nolva do more then that? I was told i would not need to do a PCT if I use Primobolan .

This is why i've come on here to get information.. I find that there is too much information on the net that controdicts itself.

**shadyadam** · 04-12-2006, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by greg_mck84

So if this is my first time, there is no problem jumping right into the at 1g per week?

And from research that i've done on Nolva, its to control estrogen and gyno. I've also read that Primo will not increase estrogen. Does nolva do more then that? I was told i would not need to do a PCT if I use Primobolan .

This is why i've come on here to get information.. I find that there is too much information on the net that controdicts itself.

Heres a nice site with primo info
http://www.steroids.com/Primobolan_Depot.asp

**vitor** · 04-12-2006, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by greg_mck84

So if this is my first time, there is no problem jumping right into the at 1g per week?

And from research that i've done on Nolva, its to control estrogen and gyno. I've also read that Primo will not increase estrogen. Does nolva do more then that? I was told i would not need to do a PCT if I use Primobolan .

This is why i've come on here to get information.. I find that there is too much information on the net that controdicts itself.

Primo is very mild, 1 gram per week is fine.

You are right that primo want increase/convert to estrogen, so gyno will be a non-issue. But nolva/clomid will bring back your natrual Teststerone production back faster after a cycle, because it blocks the innbithion of estrgen by the pitiutary/hypotalamus, which make the LH produce more testosterone .

When natty-test is returning to normal, estrogen will increase to, which will slow the recovery down unless you use one of these SERMS.

**greg_mck84** · 04-12-2006, 01:55 PM

So if I decide to do 1 g of primobolan a week for 10 weeks, drink 3 protein shakes a day and increase my food intake to 6 meals a day and a high cal diet, will i see a much better gain? and can anyone suggest the amount of gain someone may see dong a program like this?

**IBdmfkr** · 04-12-2006, 02:01 PM

Post up your current diet and your proposed diet.. Let's start there bro.. If your two diets you post are completely different then that's where you problem lies. I'd deff wait on the juice.. You will gain 5-10lbs in a few months with proper diet.

**marcus300** · 04-12-2006, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by IBdmfkr

Post up your current diet and your proposed diet.. Let's start there bro.. If your two diets you post are completely different then that's where you problem lies. I'd deff wait on the juice.. You will gain 5-10lbs in a few months with proper diet.

Finally

**greg_mck84** · 04-12-2006, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by IBdmfkr

Post up your current diet and your proposed diet.. Let's start there bro.. If your two diets you post are completely different then that's where you problem lies. I'd deff wait on the juice.. You will gain 5-10lbs in a few months with proper diet.

Hey sorry guys, I'm at work and I was in an emergency meeting. I have to go back and finish the meeting in 5 minutes. I'll post my meal plans tomorrow first thing when I get into work. I really appreciate all the information and help you guys have provided. Like i said earlier, there is way to much contradicting info online. Its best to get information from people who have had experience with the product.

Thanks!
-Greg

**IBdmfkr** · 04-12-2006, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by marcus300

Finally

haha just read your original post marcus.. tu chea.

**frank2738** · 04-12-2006, 04:22 PM

hey greg.... i did only primo back in 1992. it was all i could get my hands on and didnt know shit about gear. the only advice i got was too eat and train like an animal. i don't remeber how much or how long i did it for, but it deffinitely transformed me from a boy to a man's body. i was 22 and 175lbs. went to 195lbs. and kept pretty much all of it. good luck.

**Hellmaskbanned** · 04-12-2006, 04:27 PM

If your not a umpa lumpa your not ready to cycle weighing 150lbs. End of discussion

**Rocky IV** · 04-12-2006, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by greg_mck84

Hahaha I think i'll just leave Pinnacle out of this one. I was trying to get information from the PRIMO LOVERS AND HATERS thread but it just turned into a damn circus hahaha. l
lol my bad!

What would happen if I started using steriods? Any steriod, not just primo. If i still have a lot of natural mass to gain, if I went on juice, what would happen? anything?

well its up to you weather u want to start this cycle or not. Primo is mostly used for cutting but may also be used to bulk. considering you have never touched any androgen or steriods in general you should have good potential to gain a good amount of weight depending on how hard you diet. Just eat alot while you are on if you can rech about 250-300 grams of pritine a day with a decent amount of carbs and low fat i think you could abtain your goal fairly easy..once again it all comes down to your diet..and most people use the advantage of promo working extreamy well on low calorie diets..if i were you id save the money and just go grab a cycle of tbol..cheap and effective you should gain well with that and save a tone of cash..but then again primo is my favorite compound.