Oral Turinabol + Dbol (oral only)

**greek_pitbull** · 04-16-2006, 05:36 AM

Hello and thanks for any answer in advance guys..!
what do you say abt this:
6 weeks of 40mg ED OT or 5weeks of 50mg ED OT
and the first 4 weeks Dbol 30-40mg ED (+pct, letro, nolva, milk thistle...)
Will this stack give me 12lbs (4kg) of solid gains?

Thnks

**goose** · 04-16-2006, 05:40 AM

your first cycle?

**greek_pitbull** · 04-16-2006, 06:04 AM

No no i ve done before test e and winny and test e plus dbol but i hold water and now summer approaches and i d like to be clean...what d you say then

**01dragonslayer** · 04-16-2006, 06:28 AM

If you have problems retaining water...dbol should not be an option and gains are hardly solid. I've never liked cycling two 17aa s side-by-side especially one as harsh as dbol. You need test as your base and the best choice IMO would be prop due to problems with bloating. Run it a mimimum of 6wks along side your OT. Anti-e throughout to combat signs of gyno and to controll water retention.

**greek_pitbull** · 04-16-2006, 06:42 AM

I ve used dbol before and i hundled water retention very infact i didnt have any with naps (and russian- legit) i used proviron 50mg a day and 1.25mg letro EOD ....but this stack of anti-es didnt work with test twice...thats why i try to avoid test this time

**powerliftmike** · 04-16-2006, 06:50 AM

Originally Posted by greek_pitbull

I ve used dbol before and i hundled water retention very infact i didnt have any with naps (and russian- legit) i used proviron 50mg a day and 1.25mg letro EOD ....but this stack of anti-es didnt work with test twice...thats why i try to avoid test this time

Test prop has little problems of bloating. 1.25mg of letro is way to much IMO, esp when the only aromatizing AAS you are taking is dbol .

**01dragonslayer** · 04-16-2006, 06:50 AM

What were your prevoius cycles??

**greek_pitbull** · 04-16-2006, 06:57 AM

1stone 10 weeks test e 600mg EW and the last 6 weeks winny 50mgED
2ndone 12 weeks test e 750mg EW and the first 4 dbol 30mg ED

should i have a decent result from tha stack OT and dbol for 6 weeks?

**01dragonslayer** · 04-16-2006, 07:19 AM

IMO you still need a test ester as your base and, again, prop would be your best option. Maybe try running it at a lower dose...say 5-600mg/wk along side your tbol.

**01dragonslayer** · 04-16-2006, 07:20 AM

Originally Posted by greek_pitbull

should i have a decent result from tha stack OT and dbol for 6 weeks?

IMO...no.

**Booz** · 04-16-2006, 07:29 AM

imo there would be no point running these two orals together anyhow...i mean tbol is basically dbol with less water retention....you may as well up the intake of tbol and leave the dbol out of the equation..............
i agree with Dragon on the test base....i do not ever run anythin without test...others do but i dont..............prop would be a good choice as pointed out abouv.............

**greek_pitbull** · 04-16-2006, 07:40 AM

Ok guys thnks for everything i ll think abt the test prop and tbol, maybe leave my dbol for my next one!

Get Bigger!

**Swifto** · 04-16-2006, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by greek_pitbull

1stone 10 weeks test e 600mg EW and the last 6 weeks winny 50mgED
2ndone 12 weeks test e 750mg EW and the first 4 dbol 30mg ED

should i have a decent result from tha stack OT and dbol for 6 weeks?

Your testosterone dose seems high for both cycles you've done. This makes me think your using a higher dose of testosterone to compensate for a poor diet? Unless you dont respond well off of 350-500mg/wk of testosterone?

What dosage you starting the Test Prop at? 75mg/ED?

**greek_pitbull** · 04-16-2006, 10:41 AM

150mg EOD i dont like inject every day...my diet was 4000 kcals and 340gr of prot each day...maybe the dose was big thats why i couldnt manage it even with letro...anyway this is past

you ve tried OT alone isnt that right?? should i try it alone, or with dbol ? i dont exept the same gain as if i were on test but i just want to lean ur a bit and gain 10lbs can i?

**Testostack** · 04-16-2006, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by Booz

imo there would be no point running these two orals together anyhow...i mean tbol is basically dbol with less water retention....you may as well up the intake of tbol and leave the dbol out of the equation..............
i agree with Dragon on the test base....i do not ever run anythin without test...others do but i dont..............prop would be a good choice as pointed out abouv.............

Damn right, plus, two orals are quite harmful forliver and imo pointless w/o test....