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04-16-2006, 05:39 PM #1Junior Member
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Too much for a first cycle?
I am looking to start a first cycle and need to know if my cycle plans are too much. Right now I am 5'10" 193 pounds pretty solid and I'm benching 225, 14times. Not exactly sure on body fat, but I've been lifting solid for a year, and on and off for 4 years. Here is what I have planned...
WEEK 1- 6: Dianabol 30mg Every Day
WEEK 1- 8: Deca Durabolin 400mg Per Week
WEEK 1- 8: Testosterone Enanthate 750mg Per Week
WEEK 1-10: Arimidex 0.25mg Every Day
WEEK 1-10: Pregnyl (HCG ) 300-500iu Every 4-5 Days
WEEK 11: 40mg Nolva/100mg Clomid Every Day
WEEK 12: 30mg Nolva/50mg Clomid Every Day
WEEK 13: 20mg Nolva/50mg Clomid Every Day
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04-16-2006, 05:42 PM #2
yeah i think it sounds a lil too much, but thats just me.. u wanna ease ur way into it, not rush
good luck
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04-16-2006, 05:44 PM #3
How old are you? Sounds a bit heavy for a first cycle after only one year of solid training. Stick around here and read read read.... Don't Rush into AAS
Good Luck Bro
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04-16-2006, 05:58 PM #4Junior Member
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Originally Posted by SMAN12B
Thanx for the help btw.
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04-16-2006, 06:02 PM #5Female Member
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Originally Posted by lowep3
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04-16-2006, 06:10 PM #6Originally Posted by lowep3
WEEK 1- 4: Dianabol 30mg Every Day
WEEK 1- 10: Deca Durabolin 300mg Per Week
WEEK 1- 12: Testosterone Enanthate 500 mg Per Week
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04-16-2006, 06:15 PM #7Originally Posted by mr. snakes
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04-16-2006, 06:16 PM #8
Lowep3 as for the cycle I truly believe its too much for your first. You will be able to make great gains on Test alone. Think of it this way, if you use 3 compounds first, then your gonna use four next etc etc. STarting with one you can maximize the gains you make while not having to use as many compounds, this will save you injections, sides and money.
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Originally Posted by C_BinoLast edited by lowep3; 04-17-2006 at 03:49 PM.
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04-17-2006, 03:55 PM #10VET Retired
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Originally Posted by C_Bino
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04-18-2006, 01:49 PM #12Junior Member
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Originally Posted by JDogg
Now back to my question, since I have been told by C Bino to take a test only cycle first would it be ok to take 30mg ed to kick start my cycle?
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04-18-2006, 01:52 PM #13VET Retired
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Yeah, i see no prob with that.
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04-18-2006, 07:10 PM #14Junior Member
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Originally Posted by big k.l.g
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04-18-2006, 08:46 PM #15New Member
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Weeks 1-12 500 mg/wk of Test E
Weeks 1-4 30 mg/ed of Dbol
You'll get swollen on this cycle for your first.
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04-18-2006, 08:50 PM #16Originally Posted by big k.l.g
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04-18-2006, 08:54 PM #17VET Retired
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Originally Posted by C_Bino
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04-18-2006, 09:24 PM #18Banned
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Keep it nice and simple to start off man, your young
Test E 400mg/week for 10 weeks
bam, thats all you need, cheap, effective, and easy
not including PCt of course
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04-19-2006, 02:47 AM #19
that is one nice first cycle, u will love it. go for it.
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04-19-2006, 02:56 AM #20New Member
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listen,
if you are going to run the dbol then run it straight through with the test.dont get into this jump start crap.look.........if you drop the dbol then to keep gaining you will have to increase the test so if your heart is set on doing it this way this is what you want to do then.weeks 1-4 dbol 30mg/day with weeks 1-4 test enanthate 750mg/wk.drop the dbol then increase test enanthate weeks 4-12 to 1g/wk.now that im looking at this(considering its your first cycle) start the test at 500mg/wk 1-4,with dbol 30mg/day 1-4.drop dbol,then increase test to 750mg/wk 4-12.....................personally i would start dbol at 20mg/day wks 1-6 with test at 500mg/wk 1-6.then increase dbol to 40mg/day wks 6-12 and increase test to 750mg/wk wks 6-12.after this start your PCT.
later
if someone disagrees please back it up with experience.not oh,man you will die bla,bla,bla.
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04-19-2006, 03:45 AM #21~ Vet~ I like Thai Girls
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Originally Posted by BGMKE7Last edited by Kale; 04-19-2006 at 08:35 AM.
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04-19-2006, 05:47 AM #22Banned
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Originally Posted by BGMKE7
hahah I'll let the vet's take care of that one
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04-19-2006, 07:31 AM #23
Haha
I Wont Say Anything Becuz Im Jus A "newbie"
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04-19-2006, 07:34 AM #24~ Vet~ I like Thai Girls
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Originally Posted by Rizmon
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04-19-2006, 07:38 AM #25Originally Posted by SVTMuscle
This is Standard Operating Procedure...
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04-19-2006, 08:03 AM #26
Do the test, all the test, and nothing but the test!! (500/wk is plenty for first) Save the D-bol for your next cycle after you see what gains you made from JUST THE TEST !! and DON'T do ANYTHING until you have your entire PCT on hand and keep reading here!!
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04-19-2006, 08:13 AM #27
Thats Tru
Thats Way To Much Dbol And Test For A First Cycle .... My First Cycle Was 1 Shot Sust Wit One Shot Of Deca 300 A Week I Gained 40 Pounds U Hafta Remeber The Juice Wont Do Everythin U Need To Eat And Train Properly... Imo Test Is All U Need But Do Pyarmid Dont Take The Same Amount The Whole Way Threw 12 Weeks Wit Test E And Some Pct.....
Start Week 1-4 250 Mg A Week Week 4-10 500mg Then Back Down To 250mg Its Your First Time Ur Receptors Are Completely Empty Eat Good And Train Hard With Proper Rest
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04-19-2006, 08:18 AM #28~ Vet~ I like Thai Girls
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Pyramiding is old school IMO and leaves you open to to many sides because of the fluctuations in Test levels it can cause. Better to stick with the same dose all the way through
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04-19-2006, 08:28 AM #29Originally Posted by SMAN12B
Best beginer cycle is 200-500mgs of test weekly, with proper PCT.
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Originally Posted by Ufa
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04-19-2006, 08:32 AM #31Originally Posted by BGMKE7
if he is going to "RAMP" it up after he finished dbol, then Prop or PhenylProp will be more ideal.
i dont cycle like most and i run pretty retarded protocols as far as "cycling" goes but i will say yes u can run dbol for 12 weeks and be fine as long as your at a relatively low dose (please dont try this on my account i dont wanna be responsible for some tard running 100mg DBol for 12 weeks ending up w/ hepatitis). but the soul purpose of dbol as far as most are concerned is to use it to jumpstart for 5-6weeks this lets exogenous test levels reach their peak, plateau and they can rely on test for the rest of their gains (just because it is plateaued doesnt mean u cant gain off high test levels hell u have like 15times more test than average horny teen). As they become more experienced, have BLOOD WORK DONE (i do MANY MANY TIMES during the year), and learn their bodies- sure let them do what they will, but around here we try to keep it LOGICALLY SAFE. If he wants to run an oral all the way through let him pick a less hepatoxic one i.e. var.
another note is that dbol at 20mg usually does just about enough to make me break out w/ a zit or 2 which seems to be the common trend as well as the usual nitrogen balance,anabolic state- blah blah blah but he is also running test mind you. So if he is going to tax his liver w/ a 17aa i say run it at a high enough dose to acquire some decent gains then MOVE ON FROM THEIR.
YES contrary to belief DBOL dose produce KEEPABLE GAINS.. not just water :ha:
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04-19-2006, 09:59 AM #32Originally Posted by C_Bino
My totally first of first cycle was Dbol at 15 mg a day, before sleep.
Iīve NEVER seen as much gains in 5 weeks, I was 62 kilos ( i got into a car accident and lied in hospital for 4 months) and got 78 kilos
i got in that accident 1 january, got out around late Marc, probably 20 or something,
worked out for 6-8 months with my specialty trainer and got into really good shape, my cardio was friggin awesome but I weighted 62 kg wich is like 115 lbs or some really low, in Oktober i started using dianabol 5 mg tabs for 15 mg a day, eating the best tasting protein drink i've used, and still drinking MLO Mus-L-blast, I've tried many others, nitrotech, EAS, labrada etc.. but MLO has the best tasting.
I drank like 3-4 doses of Musl-L-blast, used 15 mg dianabol before sleep and MY god, 20 kilos are like 35 lbs.
I lost 8 kilos of this 5 week "cycle", but I got shape that I've never been able to get into.
Why do people use 50, maby 100 mg of Dbol when you can get ridiculus results from low dosage, Now I'm not just saying, but I think that maby 60 % of all steroid abusers are using to much for to short time
I saw someone her a few weeks ago who wanted to use 200 mg deca EOD for 8 weeks with 100 mg Test ED for 10 weeks, along with Anadrol or dbol to jumpstart (but he was planning for 5 or 6 weeks, canīt remember the dose)and that was his second cycle
I mean, wth ?, I think this is what get roids the bad reps, these stupid mother..
Originally Posted by lowep3
Why not just read, deca is minimum IMO (I mean, I've read about results, users etc..) 12 weeks, Test should be switched from different kind of ester to adjust more to it, remember esters are the things that control release time.
And why use dbol for 30 mg for 6 weeks, why not just eat the god ol' majo while you're at it ?, the gains from that would stick longer.
(dbol at 15 to 20 mg will give you enough for your cycle, I mean, you are in a good shape, and it will help, but sust250 alone will give you really good results and sex drive, and tag along will be higher self-esteem)Last edited by RobbieG; 04-19-2006 at 10:03 AM.
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04-19-2006, 10:04 AM #33
But by the way,
it IS nice to see someone with a proper PCT, give this man respect for that atleast
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04-19-2006, 12:42 PM #34New Member
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Kale
WELL,PRAY TELL
lets see.i have 13yrs of exp and i have gone from 160 pounds at age 18yrs to now being 280 at 31 yrs old.bro,dont be a smartass cause i dont have alot of posts.you are way off base here.you say you 2 cycles of exp of steroids .well i have spent more time doing research then you have being on steroids.i do know alittle bit here so back off with that attitude.its that kind of crap that keeps me from posting.
later
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04-19-2006, 12:44 PM #35New Member
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damn bro,
you have 2500 posts.you must know way more then me.yeah,,,let the vets handle me................
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04-19-2006, 12:56 PM #36damn bro,
you have 2500 posts.you must know way more then me.yeah,,,let the vets handle me................
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04-19-2006, 01:00 PM #37Originally Posted by BGMKE7
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04-19-2006, 01:02 PM #38Originally Posted by Gra
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04-19-2006, 01:08 PM #39
Very true, but the advice to up the test dosage after he discontinues d-bol makes no sense. If it was prop, then yeah.
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04-19-2006, 01:09 PM #40Originally Posted by taiboxa
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