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    New Cycle Suggestions (Dbol/Var/Clomid?)

    I want to run a 6 week cycle of Dbol and Anavar . 50mg ed Dbol + 40 mg ed Anavar. Im going to keep Nolva on hand just in case. If i notice any gyno ill start the Nolva 20 mg ed. Should I run Clomid on this cycle as well?

    For PCT im going to run Nolva and Clomid

    This is just a rough plan so hit me up with some suggestions!

    Yes i kno this is an all oral cycle.

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    Two orals are going to raise havoc on your liver! Why not run test and var or test and dbol instead?

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    research ALOT more plz then think about it hard and learn your pct and think about it hard and then compose your oral only cycle.

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    I actually heard good things about this cycle.. at a lower dose though.. bump for u

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benches505
    Two orals are going to raise havoc on your liver! Why not run test and var or test and dbol instead?
    nah his liver will be fine unless he has pre'existing problems w/ his liver. milkthistle will keep him going good

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa
    nah his liver will be fine unless he has pre'existing problems w/ his liver. milkthistle will keep him going good
    You are correct my friend..was just about to post something along these lines.. liver "failure" due to orals is OVER exaggerated..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liftnainez
    You are correct my friend..was just about to post something along these lines.. liver "failure" due to orals is OVER exaggerated..
    i was running dbol at 100mg+ or so CANT remember lol but it was high i was in 4th or 5th week.. well i waited 3 days after last dose to go get blood work done and my liver was FINE lol so what ever.. CHOLESTROL was pure shit but everything else was ok EVEN my kidneys

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    Yea..ive gotten blood work done after cycles with var and Dbol by themselves before (and i was taking Milk Thistle) and i wasnt even elevated. I should lower my dosages tho?

    I was also thinking of going first week: 50mg Dbol ed and 30mg Var ed then for the last 5 weeks go Dbol 30mg ed Var 40mg ed
    That would be more like running the Dbol as jumpstarter.

    Should i expect to need the Nolva during the cycle? (Gyno?)

    ..and how should i dose my PCT

    If i have a weakness in my knowledge of AAS is PCT planning ive decided.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kappa411
    Yea..ive gotten blood work done after cycles with var and Dbol by themselves before (and i was taking Milk Thistle) and i wasnt even elevated. I should lower my dosages tho?

    I was also thinking of going first week: 50mg Dbol ed and 30mg Var ed then for the last 5 weeks go Dbol 30mg ed Var 40mg ed
    That would be more like running the Dbol as jumpstarter.

    Should i expect to need the Nolva during the cycle? (Gyno?)

    ..and how should i dose my PCT

    If i have a weakness in my knowledge of AAS is PCT planning ive decided.
    i would SO run the var higher htan dbol
    i would run maybe a 40/60

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    From what I have read and heard.. keep dosages fairly low so you dont have to worry about gyno.. (still possible but not likely)
    Dbol 1-4 15-20 mg
    Var 1-4 40-60 mg
    Week 4-8 var @ 60 mg.. (could bump it up)
    Pct- nolva will suffice..

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    No one has mentioned the Clomid proposal

    ..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kappa411
    No one has mentioned the Clomid proposal

    ..?
    i dont like clomid
    i would suggest aromasin and nolva vitE and vit C some tonkat ali and some trib

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa
    i was running dbol at 100mg+ or so CANT remember lol but it was high i was in 4th or 5th week.. well i waited 3 days after last dose to go get blood work done and my liver was FINE lol so what ever.. CHOLESTROL was pure shit but everything else was ok EVEN my kidneys
    LOL shit that is a high dosage.. glad your good though.. shows you that the liver "damage" is taken out of line most times..

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa
    i dont like clomid
    i would suggest aromasin and nolva vitE and vit C some tonkat ali and some trib
    Yup.. Nolva, trib and some creatine would work..

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    What doseage for PCT..when i think Nolva i always think 20mg ed

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    I think that cycle would be fine! I would only expect to retain about 10-15lbs from this cycle bro. Nolva at 40mg for the first week and 20mg after that for a month would be fine. The important this is to get that natural balance of your hpta. And you need some solid estrogen suppression, aka. nolva!

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    ???

    why 40 mg ed in the first week? I've never had to run nolva during cycle before..ive only run it PCT. I'm going to have it on hand tho incase i do end up with any gyno midcycle. If i make it through with no gyno i would start in in the last week and a half or so of the cycle, go 20mg ed, and run it for 3 weeks out of the cycle

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    40mg would not be necessary

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    It should be cool to do what i said correct?

    I don't expect to have midcycle gyno problems

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    Sorry i meant 40mg the first week of pct.

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    kappa did u end up running this cycle??

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