Some Real Advise from some who has been there!

**want2bripped** · 05-13-2006, 09:06 AM

This is my first cycle. 33, 5' 10", 260 Im going to do it here it is....... and please try to tell me that not one of you juice heads have never went to the extreme .....at any point! Extreme is an all or any situation deal.So weather first cycle or fourth.
I would love advise from some one who has been there weather the news is bad or good.
So please give me some advise with what my deceisions are to do.

Here goes.
DEcA 200mg 2x wk.
Anavar 60mgs ed
SuS250. 300 or 500mgs a wk.??
Done with proper pct.

Some Advise on what to expect good or bad.
Thanks, Keep it Real.I could take the the crap for my deceision but i want to know what to expect.

**Steele** · 05-13-2006, 09:14 AM

i think that is an ideal cycle. most will suggest doing test only to see how you react and then build cycles from there. you could also argue that your first cycle yields the largest gains so you should take advantage of it. i have never tried anavar but am planning on it. however, my first cycle was a test only then my second was:
wk 1-10 sus250 at 500mg per week
wk 1-10 deca at 400mg per week
i gained 18 lbs and kept more than 12 of it. great cycle. i don't get near the gains now, so enjoy.

**shortie** · 05-13-2006, 09:25 AM

I personally advocate using a single compound cycle first go, your first cycle will probably yield the most gains of any cycle you do-EVEN USING ONLY TEST-the reason behind stacking additional compounds is to try and attain good gains beyond the first cycle. Also, if you load up 4 different things in your body at once and react poorly, how you gonna know what isn't working for you? I would go with Test E or Cyp 500mg/wk for 12wks IMO. Also Sust isn't the Devil or anything but it is not ideal for bi-weekly injects so most will say to use a single ester test-but if it's what you got it what you got.

**marcus300** · 05-13-2006, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by shortie

I personally advocate using a single compound cycle first go, your first cycle will probably yield the most gains of any cycle you do-EVEN USING ONLY TEST-the reason behind stacking additional compounds is to try and attain good gains beyond the first cycle. Also, if you load up 4 different things in your body at once and react poorly, how you gonna know what isn't working for you? I would go with Test E or Cyp 500mg/wk for 12wks IMO. Also Sust isn't the Devil or anything but it is not ideal for bi-weekly injects so most will say to use a single ester test-but if it's what you got it what you got.

theres your answer!!

**oswaldosalcedo** · 05-13-2006, 09:50 AM

260 lbs ?

**SMAN12b** · 05-13-2006, 10:14 AM

I resent being called a "juicehead" !!!! By a newbie looking for advice from us

**locutus** · 05-13-2006, 10:24 AM

Whats your body fat bro? your height and weight would suggest its too high to be jumping into juicing.

**locutus** · 05-13-2006, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by SMAN12B

I resent being called a "juicehead" !!!! By a newbie looking for advice from us

LOL. Dude, you just joined last month. Even at your current 28 posts a day, arent you still a newbie as far as your actual time on this board??

Still, not crazy about the the "juicehead" comment either. I agree with you there.

***BajanBastard*** · 05-13-2006, 10:40 AM

This 'first cycle will get you the most gains' is BS IMO.
Anyway drop the var or the deca , why? Because from judging from your first thread i can tell that your diet or training routine is off, way off. So those drugs are not going to fix problem and will be wasted.

**lucabratzi** · 05-13-2006, 10:50 AM

yeah bro we need ur stats...and like the other guys said just run one compound....i just got done with my test only cycle and now i know what kind of sides to expect from that...so if i do add anything else i know what to expect from test and see how i react with others...

**cfiler** · 05-13-2006, 11:10 AM

Stats are needed. I would stick with a single ester test only as mentioned above. Sust should be injected eod, so I wouldn't recomend it for a first cycle, just because of all the needed injects.

1st cycle is the best learning cycle. You need to learn how your body will react to the added aas. Start small, and work your way up.

Also you didn't list the lenght of your proposed cycle.

**SMAN12b** · 05-13-2006, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by locutus

LOL. Dude, you just joined last month. Even at your current 28 posts a day, arent you still a newbie as far as your actual time on this board??

Still, not crazy about the the "juicehead" comment either. I agree with you there.

I AM still a newbie, and I will STILL consider myself a newbie 10 years from now if i am still on this board.....
I still dont' appreciate someone coming on here calling ALL of us juiceheads then wanting information on how to become a ....."JUICEHEAD"....

**Ufa** · 05-13-2006, 11:22 AM

5' 10" --260 lbs. The Var will increase your blood pressure significantly. What's
wrong with doing a test cycle? You got to get rid of at least 40 to 50 lbs. You
mess with Deca with out test and your will have annother problem. I would
advise you to get in shape before any cycle. The first cycle should be test only. Look at this as long term.

**Cdup** · 05-13-2006, 11:23 AM

Don't take this the wrong way, but you should have been able to guage your first cycle from the advice recieved in the last thread. If you are simply posting multiple threads so that you can get people to agree with you to justify doing what you want, instead of listening to the best advice, then you might as well not waste anyones time. I am not trying to be a di*k, but that's what it seems to me. This is your first cycle, you will see gains, so do it right and add compounds later based on what you want to achieve compared to how you know you will react to the ONE compound you cycled with first. Most are giving you the same answer as in your first thread and you really should listen.

**want2bripped** · 05-13-2006, 04:06 PM

Yes my deceision to do all three(deca ,sus,var) at once might not be the best but im being honest about what im going to do and trying to seek advise adverse as my plan is.
Thanks to some for at least answering the question i asked properly.Isnt that one reason this board is meant for? Besides learning through research and others exp.
As for the Juice head comment....nobody here should take it to heart.Really though, arent all of us here juice heads ?Unless your not doing it.
My diet and training are hard And only after 3 weeks on and 8 weeks (12 wks total) of disapline diet and working out hard im seeing gains or at least a body transformation.Ive been taking pics every two weeks and i will be sure to post at the end of the cycle.
Lastly, i believe that how well you look (hence the reason for using) and health (as you mentioned the side affects, i understand this) are more important than how strong you are but i will mention im no little boy. Bench 315 for reps, same with squats++ and deads++.....and i mean reps 8 plus. Im not saying you or some others here but i know there are some guys here that are like the many little wonders i see running around the gym on there roids still wondering how to get strong and stay big.
Anyway, i thank you some of you for your strait forward advise it's what i was seeking.

**WEBB** · 05-13-2006, 04:28 PM

look retard...i answered all your bullshit in the other thread you put up, and all you did was ignore it and start another ghey thread...no matter how many of these pointless threads you start you are never going to get anyone with half a brain to reccommend what you wanna do...so just go do what you want and get shitty gains and bad side effects and leave us all alone...and stop calling everyone juice heads...you dick weasel....

man i am angry...damn contest prep diet...chicken and broccoli...ghey...kinda like this spunk trumpet...

**SMAN12b** · 05-13-2006, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by WEBB

look retard...i answered all your bullshit in the other thread you put up, and all you did was ignore it and start another ghey thread...no matter how many of these pointless threads you start you are never going to get anyone with half a brain to reccommend what you wanna do...so just go do what you want and get shitty gains and bad side effects and leave us all alone...and stop calling everyone juice heads...you dick weasel....

man i am angry...damn contest prep diet...chicken and broccoli...ghey...kinda like this spunk trumpet...

AGREED WEBB, I read the other threads, and this guy is set to do what he wants to do. My only question is WHY THEN is he asking for advice?

Good luck with the contest bro, make sure you let us know how you do!

**king diamond** · 05-13-2006, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by SMAN12B

I resent being called a "juicehead" !!!! By a newbie looking for advice from us

not a good way to ask for help from people.....or as u call us "juice heads"

**WEBB** · 05-13-2006, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by SMAN12B

AGREED WEBB, I read the other threads, and this guy is set to do what he wants to do. My only question is WHY THEN is he asking for advice?

Good luck with the contest bro, make sure you let us know how you do!

all this douche bag is doing is copying and pasteing the same comments on both of his own threads....

cant come up with anything new....

Prep is on schedule, should be on stage close to 230...dry and ripped of course....check out my log in the comp Q&A forum...its called 8 weeks out...got some pics up too...thanks for the encouragement bro...

**anaBROLIC** · 05-13-2006, 04:46 PM

maybe he should visit the lounge if hes trying to get his post count up..

**want2bripped** · 05-13-2006, 05:04 PM

Hahahaa.. no im a douch bag..Funny Shit. Yea the copy and paste was to answer both threads concerning the juice head comments. your harmones must be off cause now your sounding like a bitch!

**Ufa** · 05-13-2006, 05:08 PM

audios!

**WEBB** · 05-13-2006, 05:09 PM

you are a bitch...your the one asking what to do and then not listening to a damn word we say...its like when your girlfriend says she is fat...do you say yes...no, you say no...but she still thinks she is fat, right...so it was usless for her to even ask...just like you and your ghey ass threads....what is the fuc*ing point...you waste of skin...go eat a bucket of dicks...

**SMAN12b** · 05-13-2006, 05:12 PM

OK WEBB, back away from the computer slowly and go eat your chicken and brocolli, this guy isn't worth wasting bandwidth on anymore. The MODS see this and we are all gonna get pissed on.......lolol

**WEBB** · 05-13-2006, 05:18 PM

good point...i need that SMAN...i am cooking as we speak...i will not post herre again and give that cock helmet the satisfaction...

did you check out my contest log, SMAN????

**SMAN12b** · 05-13-2006, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by WEBB

good point...i need that SMAN...i am cooking as we speak...i will not post herre again and give that cock helmet the satisfaction...

did you check out my contest log, SMAN????

Why YES I most certainly did, and i posted there for ya! Looks GREAT!! I said it looks like the chicken and brocolli are working for ya. GREAT WORK BRO.... now go relax and don't let this guy ruin your night!! We'll take it from here.......loololol

**~fuelforfire~** · 05-13-2006, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by WEBB

look retard...i answered all your bullshit in the other thread you put up, and all you did was ignore it and start another ghey thread...no matter how many of these pointless threads you start you are never going to get anyone with half a brain to reccommend what you wanna do...so just go do what you want and get shitty gains and bad side effects and leave us all alone...and stop calling everyone juice heads...you dick weasel....

man i am angry...damn contest prep diet...chicken and broccoli...ghey...kinda like this spunk trumpet...

i was hoping to see a reply in here by you, this guy is dumb. probobly a pigeon

**WEBB** · 05-13-2006, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by SMAN12B

Why YES I most certainly did, and i posted there for ya! Looks GREAT!! I said it looks like the chicken and brocolli are working for ya. GREAT WORK BRO.... now go relax and don't let this guy ruin your night!! We'll take it from here.......loololol

i graciously accept that offer...i am out for the night...need to catch up on some sleep and some egg whites...thanks again

Fuel, finish this douche off for me...

**~fuelforfire~** · 05-13-2006, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by WEBB

i graciously accept that offer...i am out for the night...need to catch up on some sleep and some egg whites...thanks again

Fuel, finish this douche off for me...

that should do it webb.

**want2bripped** · 05-13-2006, 06:41 PM

you guys are to much....go back and read your posts and see how you rant.....like a women.Hahaha finish me off please! Oh yea dont jump off the juice...shrinking will occur, hurt your ego even more. Stay huge!

**SMAN12b** · 05-13-2006, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by want2bripped

you guys are to much....go back and read your posts and see how you rant.....like a women.Hahaha finish me off please! Oh yea dont jump off the juice...shrinking will occur, hurt your ego even more. Stay huge!

AND the reason YOU want to "JUICE" is?

**Cdup** · 05-13-2006, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by WEBB

you are a bitch...your the one asking what to do and then not listening to a damn word we say...its like when your girlfriend says she is fat...do you say yes...no, you say no...but she still thinks she is fat, right...so it was usless for her to even ask...just like you and your ghey ass threads....what is the fuc*ing point...you waste of skin...go eat a bucket of dicks...

HA!!!

PS sorry to bump worthless crap, but...