Other than Dbol????

**Kale** · 05-13-2006, 11:32 PM

week 1-5 Test Prop 125 mg EOD

Awsome cycle especially with the HGH. It will make PCT a dream. You will get huge and cut !!!! How much Arimidex are you going to do I am doing 0.25mg ED

**SMAN12b** · 05-13-2006, 11:34 PM

was planning on .5mg ED.

I will add the prop in at 125 EOD

Thanks alot!!

**SMAN12b** · 05-13-2006, 11:35 PM

My Arimidex came in .5mg caps. Think EOD on them would be ok, or stick with .5 ED

**Kale** · 05-13-2006, 11:43 PM

Originally Posted by SMAN12B

My Arimidex came in .5mg caps. Think EOD on them would be ok, or stick with .5 ED

Check with Bino. thats not a partucularrly heavy cycle. I would think 0.5 EOD would be OK. You going to post your Diet, I need help !!!

**SMAN12b** · 05-13-2006, 11:50 PM

Originally Posted by Kale

Check with Bino. thats not a partucularrly heavy cycle. I would think 0.5 EOD would be OK. You going to post your Diet, I need help !!!

Well, I am not preparing for any contest, so my diet is a basic 6-7 meals/day eating VERY clean

#1 1 whole egg w/3-4 egg whites omlete and oatmeal
#2 4-6 oz chicken breast with salad no fat dressing
#3 Meal replacement drink w/ glutamine
#4 PWM usually STEAK or chicken with rice or sweet potato
#5 1/2 meal replacement drink
#6 Sly Stallone's protein pudding (actually pretty good)
#7 1/2 meal drink

Once on cycle I will follow the same format but up the calories
I set my watch to go off every 2.5 hours to remind me to eat.

What else can I help you with, you have done so much for me so far!!

MUCH LOVE

**Kale** · 05-13-2006, 11:56 PM

LOL, well I am on that and more at around 4500 calories a week. I gained 7lbs in the first two weeks of the cycle, tomorrow is the start of week 5 and I havnt put on an ounce since the middle of week 3. I am hoping the Test E will kick in and start making a difference soon. Strength is through the roof though so I know the gear is OK.

**SMAN12b** · 05-13-2006, 11:59 PM

Well, if you looking to gain more weight, you could try adding some more fat to your diet. good fat , salmon, natty peanut butter, ect.... I love salmon

My first BULK cycle I hated. I couldn't force myself to eat enough. I would go get double burgers and 2 peanut butter sandwiches just to get MORE calories....lolol

Funny, it is harder to gain weight than lose it......lolol

**Kale** · 05-14-2006, 12:06 AM

Originally Posted by SMAN12B

Well, if you looking to gain more weight, you could try adding some more fat to your diet. good fat , salmon, natty peanut butter, ect.... I love salmon

My first BULK cycle I hated. I couldn't force myself to eat enough. I would go get double burgers and 2 peanut butter sandwiches just to get MORE calories....lolol

Funny, it is harder to gain weight than lose it......lolol

Aint that the fvcking truth. All these guys that moan about cutting. Man I cant wait its going to be a peice of cake. What about if I add some flax to two of my protein/oatmeal shakes ?

**SMAN12b** · 05-14-2006, 12:08 AM

that could definetly help. Just got to suck it up and up those calories brother.....lolol
I know what you mean, I moaned about my 12 week contest diet to get to 3% until I had to try bulking....Give me cutting anyday.....lolol

**Kale** · 05-14-2006, 12:12 AM

How much would you put in ?

**SMAN12b** · 05-14-2006, 12:14 AM

I would probably start with two tablespoons in each shake and work your way up. I hated the tase of flax, but if you are adding to shakes, then maybe it wont' be that bad. I just tried taking it straight, and couldn't stomach it....YUKKKKK

**Kale** · 05-14-2006, 12:17 AM

Originally Posted by SMAN12B

I would probably start with two tablespoons in each shake and work your way up. I hated the tase of flax, but if you are adding to shakes, then maybe it wont' be that bad. I just tried taking it straight, and couldn't stomach it....YUKKKKK

Well I am already adding a cup of oatmeal to each shake now so I am sure I wont taste it at all. I will just go down to GNC now and see if I can get some

**guest589745** · 05-14-2006, 01:30 AM

Originally Posted by SMAN12B

Funny, it is harder to gain weight than lose it......lolol

Shit, maybe for you.

***Narkissos*** · 05-14-2006, 02:21 AM

Originally Posted by Lavinco

Thus my point!

Sustanon is a blend of different estered testosterones (4 of them): testosterone propionate - 30 mg, testosterone phenylpropionate - 60 mg, testosterone isocaproate - 60mg, and testosterone decanoate -100 mg.

Sust was designed for quick AND slow releases utilizing all the compounds.

He asked about anything other than an oral steroid .

Sust is just my 2 cents.

Anabolic Review Steroid Profile: Sustanon 250

read all about it

Your point is moot... as prop is the 'fast-acting' component of sust.. and the amount of prop is low

He'd be better off using just prop if a kick start is what he wants... or an Oral

Winny is my oral of choice.. i also like dbol .

***Narkissos*** · 05-14-2006, 02:24 AM

Originally Posted by SMAN12B

OK here goes:

Two months of HGH starting at 2iu's 5/2 working up to 4 ius by July when my cycles starts and continuing for a total of 6 months HGH

CYCLE:

Weeks 1-12 Test E @ 500/wk
Weeks 1-10 Decca @ 300/wk
Weeks 9-14 Winny @ 50/ED

Will be using HCG throughout along with Arimidex
then clomid and nolva for PCT

After a few more weeks of research here, I am thinking a kickstart of Prop might be good since Test E won't kick in til weeks 4-6

the winny is injectable or oral?

**dale haywood** · 05-14-2006, 03:28 AM

personally i saw great results with a anadrol kickstart.

**SMAN12b** · 05-14-2006, 06:57 AM

Originally Posted by Narkissos

the winny is injectable or oral?

I will be injecting the winny Nark. You mean you can drink winny?..

**Liftnainez** · 05-14-2006, 10:54 AM

whats going on sman?
In regards to the ORAL controversy.. most of the time when you hear the word oral you hear other words such as liver damage/failure, kidneys destroyed, etc... this is all OVER played to a high degree.. If you take dbol at a resonable dose for around 4 weeks with proper precautions you will be fine..there are even a few people on this board who take EXTREMELY high dosages of potent drugs for a long duration of time and are fine.. If you want to stick with the prop that is fine.. I never used dbol but probably will in the future.. If you are looking to get stronger and add some weight- dbol will be great.. I wouldnt skip the dbol in fear of your liver.. if you prefer prop over the dbol then thats fine.. just dont always believe what you hear and read.. remember the parotitis is spreading!!!!!!!!!
good luck with your cycle brotha...