Going Into My 5th Week

[llrockyll]

im am kinda getting discouraged im going into my 5th week of test enanthate 525mg a week and nothing yet. my diet is good and my work outs are good. i thought every1 said it kicks in after 4 weeks? can any1 tell me whats up?

[Liftnainez]

Well some people say they dont feel gains until week 6 or even 7 with Test E.. I cant disagree bc each reacts diff to each compound but I really feel by week 5 you should feel or see at least SOME results.. thats why some people add an oral for a kickstart until the longer ester kicks in.. Give it another few weeks- maybe your one of the people who test hits hard towards the end.. it also could be that your gear is bunk or you diet is way off.. what does your diet consist of?

[llrockyll]

i am 22, 180 not sure on body fat. 5 years training experience. my first cycle and i am doing 525mg test enanthate a week for 10weeks and letro.25mg/ed.
on none lifting days meal 6 will be 3/4 cup brown rice shake and 1-tbsp olive oil.

LIFTING DAYS

meal 1
3 egg whites pro-41
2whole eggs fat-31
1-cup oatmeal carb-59
1-tbsp canola oil
1-cup ff milk

meal 2
1-can light tuna pro-41
veggies fat-6
1-roll 100%wheat bread carb-47
cheerios i think there 100%wheat?

meal 3
1-cup oatmeal pro-40
6 oz. boneless skinless chicken breast fat-22
1-tbsp olive oil carb-46

meal 4
6 oz. boneless skinless chicken breast pro-42
1-roll 100% wheat bread fat-8
1-cup cheerios carb-47
green veggies

meal 5
(preworkout) pro-49
1 can light tuna fat-3
4 oz. multigrain pasta carb-68

meal 6
(pwo) pro-50
isopure shake fat-0
dextrose 50carb carb-100
maltodextrin 50carb

meal 7
(ppwo) pro-51
5 oz. 95% lean beef fat-8
1/2 cup brown rice carb-62

meal 8
bed
1/2 isopure shake pro-25
1-tbsp caola oil fat-28
1-tbsp olive oil carb-0

meal 9
bedtime snack pro-44
1-cup cottage cheese fat-2
2-cup ff milk carb-34

TOTAL
pro-383
fat-108
carb-463

TOTAL CALS= 4356
then i realized i started with to many calories and cut it back to 3500

[Liftnainez]

Your diet seems good.. You didnt have to bump it down to 3500 though.. If your eating a clean 4500 calories per day, and doing cardio you shouldnt gain much fat.. Still even with 3500 calories per day you should still be gaining a bit of weight or start to notice results.. it seems the gear could be bunk.. did you order this from the same source you got your first cycle from??

[TheDfromGC]

ive been there...more than once. my last test cycle i sent it to get tested and the enanthate came back at 149mg/ml when it was suppose to be 250mg/ml and the source was well known and recommended.

[llrockyll]

this is my first cycle. pet pharma 350mg/ml its legit.

[Liftnainez]

ive been there...more than once. my last test cycle i sent it to get tested and the enanthate came back at 149mg/ml when it was suppose to be 250mg/ml and the source was well known and recommended.

yup..its bull$hit but it happens alot..

[llrockyll]

i havent heard any1 complain about pet pharma yet.

[Liftnainez]

this is my first cycle. pet pharma 350mg/ml its legit.

sorry i read your above sentence wrong.. so it is your first cycle.. there are faked products....

[Liftnainez]

why dont you post a pic in the pic forum for more help

[llrockyll]

well ive seen the same ones i have in the pic forum before

[llrockyll]

the boxes were unopened too

[Liftnainez]

i guess try upping your cals or just wait until week 6, 7 or 8 and see what happens then...

[guest589745]

Bro, I have been in this same situation. I kept hearing "maybe you are a low/non responder to test" which I think is bullshit. I think I got ripped off or it was underdosed. No real gains from 10 weeks cyp at 500mg a week then up to 750mg the last three weeks. I hope everything turns out well.

[Liftnainez]

Bro, I have been in this same situation. I kept hearing "maybe you are a low/non responder to test" which I think is bullshit. I think I got ripped off or it was underdosed. No real gains from 10 weeks cyp at 500mg a week then up to 750mg the last three weeks. I hope everything turns out well.

Thats what I think.. BUT hes not letting that even be a possibility.. Some people just wont accept the fact that it could be bunk gear.. at times even reputable sources mess up.. on purpose or not- $hit happens..

[guest589745]

My first cycle was from a supposedly reputable source but, I didnt get enough referances and ended up ****ed. Live and learn.

[Liftnainez]

thats life.. a great quote "a smart man learns from his mistakes.. a wise man learns from the mistakes of others..."

[llrockyll]

so where can i go to get it tested?

[guest589745]

SRC....damnit I forget the last letter always, you need 2ml and $100.00

[llrockyll]

how do i get a hold of them?

[TheDfromGC]

http://www.srcslab.com/ send them an email, theyll get back to u with all the info u need. unless prices has changed since a few months ago its $100 per compound, kind of pricey but worth it

[llrockyll]

k thanx for all the info guys

[llrockyll]

do u get the sample back after they test it? or do i lose 2ml?

[guest589745]

itll be gone Im sure.

[llrockyll]

well that sucks

[llrockyll]

what do u think about making a thread to see if any1 else is using it, think i should?

[TheDfromGC]

what do u think about making a thread to see if any1 else is using it, think i should?

no, ugl name posting is against the rules, a mod will come by and edit the post and then give u a spanking ur best bet is pm a few mods and see if theyve heard any other problems with the company

[llrockyll]

oh shit man already made the thread real sry dude