Fat loss kicked into TURBO

**mkv213** · 05-19-2006, 01:11 AM

Hey guyz,
Well I've been dieting and doing 45min cardio x 3/wk. It's amazing the results you can get from diet and cardio alone...with (EFA stack included). This IS the magic bullet for all who are looking for the short cuts. A little sweat, dedication and persistence. You just have to put in work. It's not easy at first but it becomes enjoyable (im my case anyway). I feel awesome after 45 min of busting my ass with cardio.

So, i've FINALLY got my diet down, cardio and lifting are going well. I was wondering, when I start my Tren /Prop/Winny should I see my BF loss kick into Overdrive? I've hear a lot of guys on here say that once they began their Tren/prop the fat just started to melt away. Any validity to this? Speak from personal exp. if you wish to comment.

thx
mkv213

***SPIKE*** · 05-19-2006, 01:47 AM

When are you doing your cardio? How are you eating around it?

**mkv213** · 05-19-2006, 02:38 AM

Originally Posted by Jayhova

When are you doing your cardio? How are you eating around it?

First thing in the AM..on empty. I wait about an hour after and then eat breakfast (protien eggs/Carbs oats). I've been experimenting by replacing the carbs with fats on cardio days. but for the most part it's been Complex carbs.

**bazerk** · 05-19-2006, 06:37 AM

bump

**jucinator** · 05-19-2006, 07:56 AM

Thats the best way to do it cardio in the morning and liftin in the afternoon. Also good cycle tren , prop, winny, you can also replace the winny with ot tabs or anavar both these compounds help fat lose and strenght. Im currently doing 400mgs tren ace a week , plus 1000mgs prop a week , plus 40mgs t-bol ED and 1 15 mg anavar ED. works great for the beach!

**mikemikemike** · 05-19-2006, 08:14 AM

whats your hart rate at when you do cardio?????

**kuad** · 05-19-2006, 08:37 AM

if you can't do cardio in the morning or miss it how long after last meal should you waitto do cardio?

**mkv213** · 05-19-2006, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by kuad

if you can't do cardio in the morning or miss it how long after last meal should you waitto do cardio?

2 hrs and should get you glucose levels be back down enough for the cardio to be effective

**mkv213** · 05-19-2006, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by mikemikemike

whats your hart rate at when you do cardio?????

I keep mine at 175 BPM. The formula is 220 - age * .7
Which for me is 135 BPM but personally, I don't feel that's enough. I don't even break a sweat at that pace. The harder you go the more you'll burn. Depending on your goals, I'd keep it under 1hr, 30 min if you're trying to put on muscle. I do 45 min but I'm trying to lower my BF before the next cycle.

**kuad** · 05-19-2006, 09:08 AM

thanks!

**cfiler** · 05-19-2006, 09:23 AM

I'd add another cardio day, do it four days aweek. How many days do you lift?

***SPIKE*** · 05-19-2006, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by kuad

if you can't do cardio in the morning or miss it how long after last meal should you waitto do cardio?

Cardio on an empty stomach???

***SPIKE*** · 05-19-2006, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by mkv213

First thing in the AM..on empty. I wait about an hour after and then eat breakfast (protien eggs/Carbs oats). I've been experimenting by replacing the carbs with fats on cardio days.

Why do you wait an hour to eat after doing AM cardio?

You replace carbs with fat after your cardio?

**kuad** · 05-19-2006, 12:30 PM

as for cardio do you prefer hiit?

***SPIKE*** · 05-19-2006, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by kuad

as for cardio do you prefer hiit?

Once again, check out that thread I posted for you if you have some time. Will really clear up whatever confusion you have. Long but educational.

**Liftnainez** · 05-19-2006, 12:56 PM

good post jayhova

**kuad** · 05-22-2006, 09:05 AM

so don't wait an hour after cardio?

**cfiler** · 05-22-2006, 10:27 AM

No, you don't need to wait for an hour. Your body needs nuitrients. I'd have a high protien meal or shake after AM cardio.

**mkv213** · 05-23-2006, 11:36 PM

Originally Posted by Jayhova

Once again, check out that thread I posted for you if you have some time. Will really clear up whatever confusion you have. Long but educational.

LOL hell yeah bro...long ass post, good shyt though. Wasn't any confusion here. I was just wondering if since I've just started prop/tren cycle will my fat loss be even greater. I hear bros on here say that when on prop/tren they tend to lose BF like crazy. My diets all good. I'm cutting while trying to keep my LBM and even add some LBM.

**curca** · 05-24-2006, 03:06 AM

how was your protien intake?..did you loose any muscle??

**mkv213** · 05-25-2006, 01:06 AM

Originally Posted by curca

how was your protien intake?..did you loose any muscle??

300gms/1200cals from protien
200gms/800cals from carbs
22gms/200cals from fats

2200 cals total

I'm losing fat, it's very noticable yet I still weigh the same so I would say no, I'm not losing muscle but gaining. 4 weeks ago I was 218 and had a spare tire, today my stomach is flat (no six pack yet though)and my love handles are about gone and I still weigh 218. I can't wait to burn the rest of the mid section fat to see my abs. Plus my ass has gone down a lot also. My last bulker I went up to 240lbs but my BF was around 15%. I didn't count calories then like I do now. I just ate as much protien as I could along with brown rice and oats but I think I was getting too many cals ED....and all of the fat seemed to go to my ass and gut.

I'm running 100mg/ed prop & 75mg/ed tren , winny at 75mg/ed last 6weeks.