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    Talking Opinions on this cycle please.

    This will be my second cycle for you guys to know and my stats are below.

    age: 20
    height: 6'
    weight: 220
    bf %: 9
    years training: 4
    First cycle: Test. prop 500mgs/wk for 12 weeks.

    This is what I'm planning:

    wk: 1-12 deca at 400mg/wk
    wk: 4-16 prop. at 500mg/wk
    pct: starting the third day after last prop. inj.

    What do you guys think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by monkeyman33
    This will be my second cycle for you guys to know and my stats are below.

    age: 20
    height: 6'
    weight: 220
    bf %: 9
    years training: 4
    First cycle: Test. prop 500mgs/wk for 12 weeks.

    This is what I'm planning:

    wk: 1-12 deca at 400mg/wk
    wk: 4-16 prop. at 500mg/wk
    pct: starting the third day after last prop. inj.

    What do you guys think?
    why are u waiting to start prop?
    why not use testE?

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    I like using prop because I don't hold water and test e. and cyp give me acne.
    I'm also waiting to start the run the deca 4 weeks before I start the prop. because I have a knee injury and a straigned pec so I'm looking to get some healing going on before i start my cycle completely. What do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by monkeyman33
    I like using prop because I don't hold water and test e. and cyp give me acne.
    I'm also waiting to start the run the deca 4 weeks before I start the prop. because I have a knee injury and a straigned pec so I'm looking to get some healing going on before i start my cycle completely. What do you think?
    its going to take alot longer than 4 weeks to see some significant connective tissue aid and synovial fluid increase.. took about 15-16weeks of Deca 200-300mg/wk before i noticed anything and i was on deca only

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    should I just start the deca and prop at the same time? also if i were to do the deca alone for the first 4 weeks will there be many sides because of no test?

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    Quote Originally Posted by monkeyman33
    should I just start the deca and prop at the same time? also if i were to do the deca alone for the first 4 weeks will there be many sides because of no test?
    libido will decrease
    and u could possibly go impotent

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    impotent only till i start my pct correct?

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    the other reason i wanted to stagger the prop. was because I only wanted to run it for 12 weeks instead of sixteen to if I were to start it at the same time as the deca .

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    Quote Originally Posted by monkeyman33
    impotent only till i start my pct correct?
    till u start test usually
    and its ur call.. i see no quams w/ur cycle other than if u ran test that other 4 weeks u could have more gains but its wat eva

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    which one would you do tai?

    wk: 1-12 deca at 400mg/wk
    wk: 4-16 prop. at 500mg/wk
    pct: starting the third day after last prop. inj.

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    wk: 1-12 deca at 400mg/wk
    wk: 1-16 prop. at 500mg/wk
    pct: starting the third day after last prop. inj.

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    also I'm correct by running the test 3 to 4 weeks after the last deca shot right.

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    2nd of course

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    Quote Originally Posted by monkeyman33
    also I'm correct by running the test 3 to 4 weeks after the last deca shot right.
    yes 4 would be most iDEAL!

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    thanks tai you are of great help, 1 last question this cycle should yield some good gains am i correct?

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    also do you ever have acne problems with deca because I know it really has and effect on young people just wonderin what you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by monkeyman33
    also do you ever have acne problems with deca because I know it really has and effect on young people just wonderin what you think?
    as far as gains go.. deca is AWSOME i love nor compounds they blow test outta the water!!! by far
    deca is not very androgenic so acne should not be a problem w/ DECA
    other than that ur gold

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    if you do not wont to hold water what are you doing running deca . You will be better with npp and prop if you wont no water bloat.


    Alwas start the test at the same time and all other compounds and run it longer .

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    i've no problems holding water after all I'm bulking, but I find that running prop is far superior then other tests. and far less sides for me at least.

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    I like prop also. just on a bulker it sucks shooting ed.

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    yeah frequency sucks but i at least do eod. Thanks everyone the help.

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