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06-18-2006, 11:34 PM #41
I think if you want to completely shut off the possibility of a estrogen rebound you will either have to taper for quite some time, or consider aromasin . Ldex's rebound will be very low and at .25mg ed throughout your cycle, it shouldn't be much to worry about.
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06-18-2006, 11:36 PM #422/3 Deca 1/3 Test
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Originally Posted by chest6
I think I saw yer gyno and it wasnt that bad at all. I hope if I ever (god forbid) get gyno, that it is as "bad" as yours.
Yea, when removing estrogen, negative effects on hdl/ldl occur (I think both hdl/ldl but not posistive).
were you stumped that it shrank or what?
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06-18-2006, 11:36 PM #432/3 Deca 1/3 Test
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Originally Posted by chest6
lets hope not.
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06-18-2006, 11:41 PM #44
Well the gyno didnt shrink..my balls did. Stumped at that.
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06-18-2006, 11:43 PM #45Originally Posted by chest6
shrinkage? you mean it made your dick smaller?
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06-18-2006, 11:44 PM #46Originally Posted by chest6
hmm, thats weird
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06-18-2006, 11:44 PM #47
No my balls. I was pretty confused because like I said I thought it stimulated a response from LH, which should, if anything, make them larger (if they were atrophied in the first place)
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06-18-2006, 11:51 PM #482/3 Deca 1/3 Test
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Weird. So gyno is still there? Visable or what?
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06-18-2006, 11:52 PM #49
i saw pics of chest awhile back. i didn't see any gyno at all
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06-18-2006, 11:55 PM #50
Well nips got puffier and I have hard tissue around and underneath and its not just the gland.
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06-18-2006, 11:57 PM #51Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
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06-19-2006, 12:04 AM #522/3 Deca 1/3 Test
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what was yer cycle you got it on?
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06-19-2006, 12:07 AM #53
lol.... great post question. this is an aspect of a cycle that i had not really thought or known about. what is gyno exactly? i clicked it and it took me to an anti estrogen. im wondering, since im so fat, my body naturally produces more estrogyn then most. im wondering if i take something like a low dose of nolva or something..... my nipples are like yours. puffy. been that way since i was about 13.
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06-19-2006, 12:18 AM #542/3 Deca 1/3 Test
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Originally Posted by toofatbuilder
Ask pinnacle
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06-19-2006, 12:25 AM #55Originally Posted by toofatbuilder
gyno is tissue build up in your chest, specifically around your nipples. although fat build up can resmble gyno, true gyno is actual gland tissue that has accumulated as a result of fu_ked up hormone levels (if it occured naturally) or unaturally high estrogen levels (from aas use)
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06-19-2006, 12:40 AM #56
right on... thanks tren . you think if i took some nolva it would help cut down on my water retention and estrogen? i can loose about 15 lbs in water in 1 day with about 2 hard hours of movin around.
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06-19-2006, 12:47 AM #57Originally Posted by toofatbuilder
i dont know man, taking nolva to reduce aas related gyno only works if you do it asap after it forms. if it formed when you were 13, id imagine that it wouldn't do much of anything.
but you could try getting a combo of letro, aromasin and dht, mixing it all with phlojel ultra or dmso and putting it directly on your chest. this is supposed to work very well for removing gyno. but if its fat, i doubt that even that would do much
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06-19-2006, 01:41 AM #58
well, once i loose about 20% body fat ill see how i look....lol
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