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    How to properly deal with estrogen rebound....?

    Ok can someone explain a way to prepare and deal with estrogen rebound, preferably in every aspect? That would make a good thread. I have little knowledge on this particular issue and can't seem to find a definative thread containing this info.

    I appreciate everyones input. Thanks.

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    aromasin could be used since it is a suicide inhibitor for a few weeks after you taper down...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chest6
    aromasin could be used since it is a suicide inhibitor for a few weeks after you taper down...

    Tapering down from an AI while on right?

    How do people usualy taper down with AI's?


    Need more replies.....

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    I am assuming letro?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
    Tapering down from an AI while on right?

    How do people usualy taper down with AI's?


    Need more replies.....
    Good question and thread! I have read conflicting info on using AI's during PCT. I think it makes sense to keep estrogen low while getting the boys back, but I am not sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chest6
    I am assuming letro?

    Yer assuming letro what?


    I'm just asking in general, not for a specific AI/SERM.

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    I know someone has a definative answer for this.........

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    Not givin up..............

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
    Ok can someone explain a way to prepare and deal with estrogen rebound, preferably in every aspect? That would make a good thread. I have little knowledge on this particular issue and can't seem to find a definative thread containing this info.

    I appreciate everyones input. Thanks.

    you see, certain types of anti es have more of a rebound than others. some, or rather, one that i know of (aromasin ) has no rebound effect at all.

    letro has a horrible rebound effect, and nolva supposedly has a mild rebound effect. im not sure about arimidex , but im guessing thats got a mild to moderate rebound effect.

    imo, the best way to combat this is to either gradually drop the dose down, or run aromasin for a week or so before discontinuing use of an anti e.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
    Tapering down from an AI while on right?

    How do people usualy taper down with AI's?


    Need more replies.....

    oh no, dont taper down the dose while on cycle. il taper the dose down after im done with my clomid pct

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    when i say taper the dose down, i mean gradually do it, over the course of a few weeks. this is very important for letro.

    honestly though, letro has such a severe rebound effect that i think its really best to run aromasin while discontinuing the letro. no need to take chances ya know?

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    Hang in there bro. Someone on here has got to have the info you need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subydude
    Hang in there bro. Someone on here has got to have the info you need.

    well i did just contribute my two cents...

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    I believe I read that only AI's cause a rebound and not SERMS. Im pretty sure I read that.

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    ive heard that estrogen levels will remain elevated for more than a month after you finish a cycle, probably closer to two months. so its best to run the anti e at the same dose until this point, then start tapering the dose down

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    I think I get the better jist of it tren but, still wanna get more replies....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
    I believe I read that only AI's cause a rebound and not SERMS. Im pretty sure I read that.

    really? i dont know, my boy told me that nolva has somewhat of a rebound effect, but i dont know that for a fact

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
    I think I get the better jist of it tren but, still wanna get more replies....

    yea that couldn't hurt

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    But then why take nolva for rebound issues after Adex for example?

    Hmm...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
    But then why take nolva for rebound issues after Adex for example?

    Hmm...........

    cause even if nolva has a rebound effect (which it might not) it is possible to avoid any unwanted gyno buildup if you slowly drop the dose of nolva.

    hell, it worked well for me to go from 10 mgs ed (while on cycle) to 5 mgs ed untill i stopped using the nolva

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    WHat do you know about B6 to prevent prolactin gyno?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
    WHat do you know about B6 to prevent prolactin gyno?

    ive heard many many guys claim that it works, but 200 mgs ed didnt do sh_t for me on my last cycle

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    ive heard that taking t3 will help reduce prolactin build up in your body though

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    Hmm, interesting.

    I was told to take 100 or 1000 mgs B6 with this cycle. Gotta check my PMs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
    Hmm, interesting.

    I was told to take 100 or 1000 mgs B6 with this cycle. Gotta check my PMs

    i dont know about 1000 mgs bro. i was under the impression that taking too much vit b can be really bad for you. and 1000 mgs ed is really really high.

    haha, 50 mgs is already like 8-9 times the daily recomended dose

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    Man, can you tell me why the hell we are basically the only ones responding in this thread??!!

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    Letro will also prevent progestin gyno will it not? Doesn't estrogen have to be present?

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    I thought it was a damn good question.

    This is rediculous, maybe I gotta hit up pubmed and waste 3 hours there getting what someone here **cough cough** could have answered in 1 minute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
    Man, can you tell me why the hell we are basically the only ones responding in this thread??!!

    well, its kinda late right now.

    maybe there arent too many bros online right now

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    Quote Originally Posted by chest6
    Letro will also prevent progestin gyno will it not? Doesn't estrogen have to be present?

    Yes true, as will adex (any AI as far as I know). estrogen has to be present for sides to occur but I think letro is too harsh to run during a cycle as far as I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chest6
    Letro will also prevent progestin gyno will it not? Doesn't estrogen have to be present?

    yea ive heard that letro will cause less progesterone and prolactin to be absorbed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
    Yes true, estrogen has to be present for sides to occur but I think letro is too harsh to run during a cycle as far as I know.

    its harsh?

    how so?

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    btw, its a terrible idea to run nolva while taking tren , cause nolva will actually stimulate progesterone receptors and cause more of it to be absorbed

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    harsh in terms of how much estrogen it actually "blocks" when compared with other AI's. As you know, some estrogen is a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
    btw, its a terrible idea to run nolva while taking tren, cause nolva will actually stimulate progesterone receptors and cause more of it to be absorbed

    Ok, I red that somewerhe before but it was worded differently and I didnt understand if that was what they were saying. good sheet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
    Ok, I red that somewerhe before but it was worded differently and I didnt understand if that was what they were saying. good sheet

    yea for sure. its something that i wish more people knew about

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
    well, its kinda late right now.

    maybe there arent too many bros online right now

    yes there is, look at the main page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
    harsh in terms of how much estrogen it actually "blocks" when compared with other AI's. As you know, some estrogen is a good thing.

    oh ok, i understand. yes i agree, its not good to block all estrogen... unless you already got gyno and you dont want to add to it at all, even if it means sacraficing some gains.

    letro will dry your joints out too, makin you more prone to injury

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    Very harsh on the lipid profiles. I was trying to get rid of gyno and took it for 6+ weeks at 2.5mg ed and actually got shrinkage No idea how that happened I thought it increased LH output..I was pretty stumped. Anyways..I didnt get a blood test but Im sure my cholesterol was shot after that unsuccessful attempt..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
    oh ok, i understand. yes i agree, its not good to block all estrogen... unless you already got gyno and you dont want to add to it at all, even if it means sacraficing some gains.
    yes ^^

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