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Anabolic steroids you never heard of.
Ever wonder what anabolic -androgenic steroids are out there that’s never been used by regulars in the online steroid using community? As a steroid.com memberand steroid user sure you did!
Here is a sneak peek at some obscure and not so obscure anabolic steroids that you most likely will never use do to lack of availably or extremely high cost or both.
Androisoxazole
17β-Hydroxy-17α-methylandrostano[3,2-c]isoxazole.
EST.A:A Ratio 30/320
Look familiar? What we have here is a DHT derivative that has a methyl-group in the 17th pos to allow oral dosing, in fact this drug is very closely related to stanozolol . The only difference is the group off the A-ring of androisoxazole (this protects the steroid) has an oxygen molecule instead of nitrogen in the additional ring. One would speculate this would be almost identical to stanozolol in effects, both good and bad.
Androisoxazole
Stanozolol
See the small change to the additional ring?
Bolasterone
17ß-Hydroxy-7a,17-dimethylandrost-4-en-3-one
A:A Ratio:300/575
This baby is briefly featured in Anthony Robert’s book The Ultimate Research Guide Vol.1. It’s a testosterone molecule with not one but two methyl-groups. One that’s most commonly found on most oral anabolics 17th also known as 17aa alkylation and the second methyl-group is in the 7th position this modification also increases oral bio-availability. Now if one methyl-group on testosterone was bad (methyl-testosterone) two would make this drug quite toxic. It’s a potent (bulking) steroid for sure and was highly popular in the 80s-90s before it was discontinued. It can be currently found in powder form.
Calusterone
17ß-Hydroxy-7ß,17-dimethylandrost-4-en-3-one
A:A Ratio:300/575
This is identical to the fore mentioned steroid bolasterone, the only difference is the methyl-group in the 7th position is pointing ‘up’ instead of ‘down’ like in bolasterone. This slight change (don’t ask me why) actually makes calusterone useful in the treatment of advanced breast cancer. Like its sister steroid it’s highly toxic.
Enestebol
4,17ß-Dihydroxy-17-methylandrosta-1,4-dien-3-one.
A:A Ratio: Est:0/100.
See that? It’s our good buddy methandrostenolone (D-bol) with a hydroxyl-group added to the 4th position. This molecular modification stops or greatly reduces 5a-reduction and aromatization of the patent hormone. This drug should not give any estrogenic or androgenic sides but would also significantly weaker than D-bol. In fact it’s basically just like T-bol and I think was released as a ‘Pro-hormone’.
Norclostebol
4-Chloro-17ß-hydroxyestr-4-en-3-one
A:A Ratio: N/A
Just nandrolone with an added chloro-group in the 4th. Norclostebol is to clostebol, what testosterone is to nandrolone, the parent hormone just missing that carbon atom in the 19th pos.
What I find very interesting about this particular drug is that although the 4-CL mod. stops aromatization and 5a reduction of the hormone making it ‘weaker’, the 5a reduced form of nandrolone (DHN) is actually a weaker anabolic/androgen than the parent hormone. One could speculate the 4-CL add on to the nandrolone would make it resistant to becoming a ‘weaker’ hormone giving it a higher anabolic/androgenic profile than nandrolone without the estrogen conversion.
Tiomesterone
1α,7α-Bis(acetylthio)-17β-hydroxy-17-methylandrost-4-en-3-one.
A:A Ratio: 61/456
This one is a real mystery to me. It’s an oral testosterone derivative. When I enquired about this compound I was told;
“ It’s a Di-Acetylthio derivative of 1alpha,7alpha,17beta-trihydroxy-17-methylandrost-4-en-3-one”
Ummm don’t worry I didn’t understand a word of that either. Studies do indeed show it’s useful for bodybuilding purposes though. One abstract is quoted saying Tiomesterone “was found to have exceptional anabolic properties”.
I first read about this steroid in an article by the chemist Patrick Arnold, you know that dude who brought 1-AD, AMP etc to the market? He also is accused of making THG as was but we'll just sweep that under the rug. Anywayz. Right, were was I?
This steroid is kind of a cross between oxandrolone (5 alpha-androstan-2-oxa-17 alpha-methyl-17 beta-ol-3-one) and trenbolone (17-beta-hydroxyestra-4, 9-11-trien-3-one).
Oxatrebolone (you try coming up with a better name) (2 oxa-17-beta-acetoxy-estra-4,9,11-trien-3-one.)
This is basically trenbolone with the same modification that transformed DHT into oxandrolone.
PA says this drug has the same A:A ratio as nandrolone but is 5 times more powerful. Now i don't know about you guys but this one defiantly spiked my interest. I believe (PA said the same) that if it was available it would be a rather expensive hormone due to the fact it's a Var, tren , hybrid. Tren and Var are two pricey compounds in their own right.
11-fluoro-19-nor-dihydro-testosterone.
Nandrolone with a fluoro-group, it's been shown too have a pretty good R.B.A of 73.5 (with metribolone having a RBA of 100) one of the cool properties off this drug is that it has low a uptake in the prostate, thus making this drug highly anabolic and without the risk of prostate growth.
They are many interesting anabolic steroids that were also left on the cutting room floor in the heyday of steroid research either because they were too androgenic (you wouldn't want your sick daughter on tren would you?) or just too expensive to manufacture in bulk.
Many thanks to PhyChem on the Mind&Muscle.net forums for his help.
A:A Ratio: The androgenic (1st number) anabolic (2nd number) ratio of the hormone.
EST: Means it's just a rough estimate of the A:A Ratio based off drugs that are similar.Last edited by BajanBastard; 11-08-2006 at 06:34 PM.
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06-21-2006, 02:15 PM #2
Good Post
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06-21-2006, 02:39 PM #3
Interasting, thanks Big.
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06-21-2006, 03:02 PM #4Banned
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Who has the ball`s to use 4-CH-Methyltrienolone ?,LOL.Very true,I will be using Stenbolone in the near furture,another rare AAS,has been Labeled a Superior primo.Good post big....
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Originally Posted by goose4
Man i wouldn't want 4-CH-MTN to touch my skin w/o knowing exactly why that CH was slapped on.
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Originally Posted by big k.l.g
This is what we should do.The vets and mods all chip in and buy a gram for tai,so he can do a log for us.We need to experiment on someone,he has super-man genes,I mean who can survive 1.5 G of DNP ?
Tai will love the strength gains from 4-CH-MTN.Last edited by goose; 06-21-2006 at 04:07 PM.
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Originally Posted by goose4
Tri-methyl-trenbolone is better, you know what i said about bolastarone? You do almost the same thing with trenbolone, slap methyl-groups in the 4th(I can't remeber exactly) 7th and 17th pos. Yum!
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06-21-2006, 06:30 PM #8
Big just out of curiosity, do you have a degree of some sort in bio-chemistry or organic chem?
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06-21-2006, 06:50 PM #9
Cool, new information... it's been a while since I've seen that! Thanks.
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06-21-2006, 06:57 PM #10
Hmmmm.
I have some Stanozolol now.
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Originally Posted by AnabolicAndre
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06-22-2006, 12:55 AM #12Anabolic Member
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"Tiomesterone" sounded very intresting. An oral with 456 anabolic value, almost the same as Trenbolone .
But I wouldnt be able to get that drug, so stop dreaming...
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06-22-2006, 01:34 AM #13
Hi Big...
Isnt stanozolol a distant cousin of Winnie??
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06-22-2006, 04:08 AM #14Originally Posted by Othello
Yes, it´s like rednecks girlfriend and rednecks sister
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06-22-2006, 07:08 AM #15Originally Posted by goose4
ima get some blood work done after anothe week of this tren /halo cycle and maybe while im on tren i will take a break from halo and give it a go
BUT who is going to buy my caskette?
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06-22-2006, 07:34 AM #16Originally Posted by taiboxa
M.
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06-22-2006, 07:43 AM #17Originally Posted by taiboxa
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06-22-2006, 07:49 AM #18Originally Posted by Othello
btw i got 10,000 posts bub.. or u saying i need 16000 posts ><
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06-22-2006, 07:54 AM #19
ooops missed that one...
yeah i meant 160000
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Originally Posted by RobbieG
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06-22-2006, 12:54 PM #21Originally Posted by RobbieG
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Updated.
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07-21-2006, 01:37 PM #23Originally Posted by Othello
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07-21-2006, 05:37 PM #24Anabolic Member
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Cool stuff.
I'd be interested to see some of those other ones like DMT, THG, etc.
Big, your avi is killing me, bro.
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Never saw this, interesting.
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Originally Posted by DDDNTZ
.....god damn test
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11-08-2006, 06:37 PM #27VET Retired
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One more added. A nandrolone derivative.
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11-08-2006, 07:36 PM #28Anabolic Member
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Originally Posted by BajanBastard
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More to be added:
Foodadrol
(Oxymetholfoodone)
[17 beta-foodroxy-2-hydroxymethylene-17 alpha-methyl-5 alpha-androstan-3-one]
Molecular Weight: 332.482
Molecular Formula: C 21 H 32 O 3
Melting Point: 328-480C
Manufacturer: bajanbastard (Originally)
Release Date: 1960
Effective Dose: 10,000mgs (optimal)
Active Life: <16hours
Detection Time: up to 3 hours
Androgenic : Anabolic Ratio: 1,545:3,200
Foodadrol (commonly called by athletes “F50”, “F-bombs” or "FOOD") was initially developed as a compound to help people with anorexia, and has since been used very successfully to aid people who are suffering from many other diseases where weight loss is a concern. Thus, it is clearly an effective agent for promoting weight gain, increasing appetite and gaining strength. And, as with most Food Based Steroids (FBS), it has it’s downsides as well. Foodadrol will cause excessive bodyfat increases if not administered in the proper amounts.
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12-15-2006, 09:38 PM #30Originally Posted by magic32
if 1.5g of DNP cant stop you, shit, nothign will.
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12-15-2006, 09:40 PM #31Originally Posted by Othello
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12-15-2006, 10:40 PM #32Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
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Originally Posted by chest6
not long really.
More
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Originally Posted by chest6
not long really.
More to come .....
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Ridiculous. Isnt there a prohormone section? Just saying. And by the way to the new vets, where are all of these guys these days? It has been bugging me for awhile now.
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