is it possible?

**clements22** · 07-12-2006, 07:28 PM

is it possible that some people dont react to certain steroids ??

**onehundredk** · 07-12-2006, 07:33 PM

kinda...some people dont react to low dose..they need higher...usually if someone just doesnt react to it at all, its fake.

**timtim** · 07-12-2006, 07:41 PM

yes its true. everyone reacts differently to all compounds. the thing is most of the time the difference in reaction is small and not visible therefor not taken into account.

**clements22** · 07-12-2006, 07:47 PM

im was just wondering because im on 500 mgs of sust a week and 60 mgs of tbol and ive only gained about 4 pounds and im down in bf about a percent or two and its in the middle of my 5th week ive done 9 injections already ...im 99 percent sure its real...wtf is wrong

**timtim** · 07-12-2006, 07:51 PM

hows your diet? what bf are you at? if you went from 11 to 9% and gained 4 pounds, thats more like a 8 to 9 pound increase (with water).

and the sust hasnt fully kicked in yet. my test e has been slowly moving in since week 1 1/2. everything has slowly come on now into week 6 where there are visible changes. takes time. thats why knowing myself for example, 8 to 9 weeks into a cycle i'm still adapting to the changes and really dont like the look i am carrying. by week 14 and up the transformation is more complete. takes along time for me. could be the same in this case for you.

**clements22** · 07-12-2006, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by timtim

hows your diet? what bf are you at? if you went from 11 to 9% and gained 4 pounds, thats more like a 8 to 9 pound increase (with water).

and the sust hasnt fully kicked in yet. my test e has been slowly moving in since week 1 1/2. everything has slowly come on now into week 6 where there are visible changes. takes time. thats why knowing myself for example, 8 to 9 weeks into a cycle i'm still adapting to the changes and really dont like the look i am carrying. by week 14 and up the transformation is more complete. takes along time for me. could be the same in this case for you.

id say id went from abot 13-14 to 11-12 percent bf(i think im holding a little water)
im get 3-4 thou calories a day

**timtim** · 07-12-2006, 08:10 PM

you sure the gear is real?

besides that i'd say be patient and see what happens. if i gain 5 to 6 keepable pounds on a cycle now i consider that good. what are you expecting to gain?

**pdog80** · 07-12-2006, 08:53 PM

It takes awhile for the sus to kick in. Just give it another week or two to see what happens.

**clements22** · 07-13-2006, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by timtim

you sure the gear is real?

besides that i'd say be patient and see what happens. if i gain 5 to 6 keepable pounds on a cycle now i consider that good. what are you expecting to gain?

well i keep reading about ppl gain 25-30 lbs so i was expecting atleast 15

**InsaneInTheMembrane** · 07-13-2006, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by clements22

well i keep reading about ppl gain 25-30 lbs so i was expecting atleast 15

these phenomenal gains IMO come with fat/water/LBM all together. After the cycle, most of the water gets flushed out, some lean mass may go (depending on how good ur PCT is, and the cutting cycle that follows a bulker ), and some fat goes as well (estrogen stabilizes)...you are left with 8 -12 lbs of TRUE LBM gains....this is from my experience... When I bulk, i put on like 25 lbs and after PCT...some gear-free months AND a cutting cycle, my "overall" LBM gain is usually 10-12 lbs..