working around prop pain?

**keith hackney** · 07-21-2006, 12:10 AM

never used prop before. plan on runnin 100mg ed for 10 weeks.

should i not train (hard) for the 1st week just to let my body get used to it? will my body get used to it?

is it going to be necessary to schedule my injections in correlation with my training routine? so that the muscles im focusing on in my workout arent torched from the injection? either way its gonna be hard cuz i do some olympic lifts so basically every day im doing at least one full body type lift.

also does anyone have any good links to threads or articles on how to cut prop with b-12 properly. i dont even really know what "cut means" i assume mix. not trying to get flamed here. ive done some research and just havent found the explanations im looking for.

**SMAN12b** · 07-21-2006, 07:16 AM

YEP, cut means to mix it in to dilute it.
start out with 1/2cc of b-12 with your prop dose and work up to 1 cc if needed
no need to worry about rotation, although some people like to shot the muscle they are gonna work that day to get more blood flow in that area.
but cutting it should work

**Kale** · 07-21-2006, 07:23 AM

It will kill to start with but it does actually get easier over the first couple of weeks to the point where you may not feel anything. I started out with huge amounts of pain and went down to nothing more than a slight ache after about two to three weeks. Try running hot water on the injection site straight after you inject, and I mean hot for about 10 mins. That helped me a lot.

**01dragonslayer** · 07-21-2006, 07:52 AM

People react differently to prop. Some expirience unbearable pain and others none at all. IMO the best way to lessen the pain is to cut it with another hormone or some sterile oil. Other things you can do is to massage the site after injection, try heating your prop prior to injection, and maybe apply some heat to the site post injection. I brew my own prop at 125mg/ml and its absolutely painless. Always remember to rotate injection sites when injects are taken daily as with prop. Good luck.

**clozr** · 07-21-2006, 10:21 AM

I am one of those folks that doesn't get any pain from the actual injections. I start to get really sore after about a couple of weeks and then it subsides again after about three weeks of pain. Bottom line is that pain is good. It means that the gear is doing its job and you are getting bigger, stronger and better. Embrace that pain!

**pdog80** · 07-21-2006, 10:41 AM

Pain doesn't mean your gear's good.

It just means the ba content in your gear is high.

**Juiced-1** · 07-22-2006, 07:40 AM

Originally Posted by pdog80

Pain doesn't mean your gear's good.

It just means the ba content in your gear is high.

It is not the ba that makes it painfull it is the hormone. I am one of the lucky ones with prop I do not get pain.

**pdog80** · 07-22-2006, 12:14 PM

Really? There are many senior members and vets on this board that say it's the ba content that makes it painful. So....hmmm.....who am I going to believe? Some new member or members and vets that know what their talking about? I call

on you.

**Tank75** · 07-23-2006, 08:04 AM

what is your cycle experience and stats?

have you ever injected before? if you haven't, then maybe prop will be too much to start with. i'm in my first cycle and i'm using test prop, but i'm shooting 100mg eod and cutting it with b12. if you have never injected before, I would recommend going eod because the pain may be too much to deal with. when i first started the prop, i went really light on legs because of the painful glute and quad injections and this was killing my cycle results. i started to cut with b12 and the pain depreciated enough to the point where I could lift comfortably with heavier weights.

good luck.

**Pillbass** · 07-23-2006, 08:28 AM

I just can't do prop. I tried all the above tactics and u know what? I crippled myself and couldn't work out for a couple of weeks. It's not for everyone. Just try it and c, if it works out cool if not try some easier stuff TestE or Cip. Just my 2 cents.

**Ih8urdsm** · 07-23-2006, 11:34 AM

Prop shots only hurt in my delts for the first time i injected to that spot...and it usually hurts my Triceps for a day or two after injection. No pain at all in Pecs, and no pain at all in glutes.

Its a good pain anyway : )

**Ih8urdsm** · 07-23-2006, 11:34 AM

Prop shots only hurt in my delts for the first time i injected to that spot...and it usually hurts my Triceps for a day or two after injection. No pain at all in Pecs, and no pain at all in glutes.

Its a good pain anyway : )

**keith hackney** · 07-23-2006, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by Tank75

what is your cycle experience and stats?

have you ever injected before? if you haven't, then maybe prop will be too much to start with. i'm in my first cycle and i'm using test prop, but i'm shooting 100mg eod and cutting it with b12. if you have never injected before, I would recommend going eod because the pain may be too much to deal with. when i first started the prop, i went really light on legs because of the painful glute and quad injections and this was killing my cycle results. i started to cut with b12 and the pain depreciated enough to the point where I could lift comfortably with heavier weights.

good luck.

Done 1 cycle. Enanthate for 10 weeks. 2 shots a week. my first couple shots hurt but they got much better, to the point where i couldnt feel anything. mostly all glute shots, tried a few quad shots and every one hurt like a living hell. had to postpone a leg workout due to one.

**pdog80** · 07-23-2006, 08:45 PM

Have you considered shooting into your delts? Try it and see. You might even fall in love with shooting there. They tend to be less painful than quad shots. You'll never know if you never try.