future aas user so need help starting

**cameron22** · 07-24-2006, 11:24 PM

hi,
stats:
6'4'', 244lbs.
BF 12-15% not quite sure
I am using clenbuterol right now and am almost a week into my first two week cycle of it. i am going to continute to do proper diet, training, and clen until my bf is down a lot. then i am planning on using aas to put on some good muscle. i want a kind that will add on good muscle not like a small amount but a good size. i am researching much in advance because i will probably not start until sometime in the next spring. could anyone tell me a good stack for good mucsle build, weight, size, and strength with minor concern about vascualrity. thanks.

**Hellmaskbanned** · 07-24-2006, 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by cameron22

hi,
stats:
6'4'', 244lbs.
BF 12-15% not quite sure
I am using clenbuterol right now and am almost a week into my first two week cycle of it. i am going to continute to do proper diet, training, and clen until my bf is down a lot. then i am planning on using aas to put on some good muscle. i want a kind that will add on good muscle not like a small amount but a good size. i am researching much in advance because i will probably not start until sometime in the next spring. could anyone tell me a good stack for good mucsle build, weight, size, and strength with minor concern about vascualrity. thanks.

^^^^^

Gotcha.

You really shouldn't be running clen..........

Continue to diet/train proper and you shall be more suited for aas.
Glad your not rushing into like so many do, you said your waiting till next spring to cycle, in the meantime

RESEARCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**HORSE~** · 07-24-2006, 11:29 PM

IMO all first cycle's should be test only

this will give you a chance to see how your body reacts to this compond

then next cycle add another compond and see how you react to it and so on and so forth

A good first cycle would be test e at 400mg or 500mg a week shot twice a week for 10 to 12 weeks

**HORSE~** · 07-24-2006, 11:36 PM

This is a good read for the first time aas user check it out

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=212234

**cameron22** · 07-24-2006, 11:43 PM

ive always been afraid of a longer cycle like 10-12 weeks. would running test e for that long be ok? just wondering. and why dont i need to be using clen ?

**Rocky9** · 07-25-2006, 02:59 AM

I just started my 1st cycle, its a little complex for 1st time, but its meant to target fat deposits. PM me if you want to know more.

I am 6'1'', 190lbs, 15%bf, and will be running andropen & eq for 8 week, ending it off with Dbol for 6 weeks. I will also be running 1500ius of HCG weekly, along with Nolva and Proviron daily throughout the cycle. Then comes Clomid & Nolva for PCT. I will also start Clen with PCT and run it for 8 weeks, starting off at 40mcgs/day, and tapering up to 400mcgs/day. My goal is to ultimately lose more fat and end up with a slimmer waist. My training has been designed with these goals in mind.

My nutrional targets are as follows:

Total Daily Calories - 3363
Protein - 238g daily
Carbs - 475g daily
Fats - 67g daily

**SMAN12b** · 07-25-2006, 05:21 AM

how old are you?

**SMAN12b** · 07-25-2006, 05:22 AM

Originally Posted by Rocky9

I just started my 1st cycle, its a little complex for 1st time, but its meant to target fat deposits. PM me if you want to know more.

I am 6'1'', 190lbs, 15%bf, and will be running andropen & eq for 8 week, ending it off with Dbol for 6 weeks. I will also be running 1500ius of HCG weekly, along with Nolva and Proviron daily throughout the cycle. Then comes Clomid & Nolva for PCT. I will also start Clen with PCT and run it for 8 weeks, starting off at 40mcgs/day, and tapering up to 400mcgs/day. My goal is to ultimately lose more fat and end up with a slimmer waist. My training has been designed with these goals in mind.

My nutrional targets are as follows:

Total Daily Calories - 3363
Protein - 238g daily
Carbs - 475g daily
Fats - 67g daily

you can not PM anyone until you have at least 25 posts I believe

**Rocky9** · 07-25-2006, 05:53 AM

sorry, i didnt know that you couldnt PM on these boards. I am almost 23.

**SMAN12b** · 07-25-2006, 05:56 AM

Originally Posted by Rocky9

sorry, i didnt know that you couldnt PM on these boards. I am almost 23.

No prob. but i was more wondering the age of the original poster. but since i am here, you know Eq should be run for a minimum of 12 weeks right??

**Rocky9** · 07-25-2006, 05:57 AM

ooops! were you asking MEEEE how old i am? or OP?

**Rocky9** · 07-25-2006, 06:45 AM

Originally Posted by SMAN12B

No prob. but i was more wondering the age of the original poster. but since i am here, you know Eq should be run for a minimum of 12 weeks right??

My buddy helped me design the cycle, and I questioned him abt the same thing. I quote his response...

The cost factor: I wanted you to get a nice first cycle experience without
going all out and spending your life savings. You see how much
everything adds up to very fast.
Testosterone : This must be the basis for most cycles and I think
Andropen is an excellent product and reasonably priced.
Equipoise or Decca?: This was a decision to make and I chose Equipoise
because of it's close chemical relation to Test, few sides, highly
anabolic , and one of the "cleanest" steroids to use, very low toxicity
EQ is a very long acting ester and yes it works very well when used
for 12+ weeks, but that does not mean it will not work for you for the
five weeks you are going to be on it. You could have run it to week 8
but the cost of another vial of Eq would not significantly affect the
outcome of your cycle. "Kicking In" refrers to the amount of time that
someone begins to feel the effects of the drug, but the drug begins
to alter your system with the very first injection. Being a long acting
ester( can stay in the system up to 3 weeks) It will still be in your
system long after you stop it and you will have the synergistic effect of
the Andropen, Eq, and the Dball.