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07-27-2006, 07:54 AM #1Associate Member
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How long is too long?
I'm going into week 15 of 750mg EW of Test E. I dropped the 600mg of Decca EW last week (week 14). I'm 31 years old and my question is how many more weeks do you guys think I could continue to SAFELY run the Test E. I know PCT will be much more of a bitch but I getting massive gains in the past 2 weeks and am REALLY not wanting to come off but will fore sure take all advice very seriously.
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07-27-2006, 07:57 AM #2
I would run the test another week longer then stop 2 weeks then begin pct.
Most of your gains should have been comming in the early stages of your cycle. More then 16 weeks is too much and a waste of money + increase of more side effects.
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07-27-2006, 08:02 AM #3Associate Member
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Originally Posted by juiceboxxx
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07-27-2006, 07:58 AM #4
btw what are your stats? cycle experience?
(i.e height, weight, etc)
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07-27-2006, 08:01 AM #5Member
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i would go another 2 to 3 weeks to make sure the deca is clearing when you stop the test. do you have prop? you could switch to prop now for 3 weeks and then run your pct immediately after the prop and not have to wait.
deca screwed me up big time so i am going off of my experience. i stopped the test too quick and crashed.
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07-27-2006, 08:07 AM #6Associate Member
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Originally Posted by juiceboxxx
I have also been running winny at 75mg ED since week 10.
All my gear is homebrew and I generously dose the powders so it's no bunk sh1t.
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07-27-2006, 02:31 PM #7
i think you can run it as long as you are gaining i dont see why to stop except for pct and if you are still gaining you could invest in some HCG today and maybe youll have it in the next 3 weeks or whenever you finish cycle and that would help pct. maybe if you get blood work and its good you can go for 4+ moer weeks.
my second cycle was 18 weeks and that was hell to recover but im still alive and i wouldnt have done it another way except maybe higher doses hahah
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07-27-2006, 03:11 PM #8Associate Member
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Originally Posted by one8nine
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07-27-2006, 03:16 PM #9National Level Bodybuilder
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I personally do 24 weeks at a time bro. but I have a lot of cycles under my belt.. just stating what I do. disclaimer here is everyone is different.
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07-27-2006, 03:18 PM #10
If you're seeing gains stay on bit longer...but go ahead some hcg while you're on to help you get ready for pct...now the thing is make sure its gains that you feel are happening ..thats a fine line between that and the euphoric feeling of being on AAS!!!As far as what he said...you want to check your blood after pct...not during...you know the lipids and cholestrol may be off while you're on cycle.Pretty much go back to normal after being off.
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07-27-2006, 03:35 PM #11Associate Member
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First of all, I'll be honest as hell and say I don't know a damn thing about HCG so if somebody wants to link me to a good thread explaining it, I would be very grateful because I can't seem to find one worth a crap.
Second, I can get HCG from my source so I need to know how many iu's I'll be needing.
Third, my gains are legit and not imaginary. My strength continues to climb along with my size. Every weekend when I go out my friends comment how I growing FAST. It's not water nor fat as my diet is VERY clean, cardio regular, and I'm drinking no less than a gallon of water a day. Like I said before, i homebrew my gear so needless to say, I have ALOT of Test to last me however long I want
Thanx for the help bros
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07-27-2006, 03:49 PM #12Originally Posted by USMCSS
there are ONE MILLION ways to use hcg
i PERSALLY have used it this way: 250-500 iu ed for the last 3 weeks or so of a cycle. many people use it throughout the whole cycle and i plan to do 250iu eod fromt he first day of my next cycle but at this point i think 500iu ED until the day before pct is best IN MY OPINION there may be better ways but trying to help
you mix 1cc of the solution they provide with the powder. this will be 5000iu. take 10 insulin syringes and fill each of them to the 10 mark, which will be 500iu in 1/10 of a cc and you pretty much shoot it wherever you want
also REFRIGERATE these preloaded syringes right away
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07-27-2006, 04:14 PM #13Associate Member
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Originally Posted by one8nine
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07-27-2006, 03:45 PM #14
Human Chorionic Gonadatropin bro...it will help kick start you HPTA and get your own test functioning...you can do 250 to 500IU's a week while on...pct me personally will do 500iu a day...appreciate you being honest, cant say the same about your intelligence,now before you get offended about my comment let me explain that you shouldve known all this BEFORE you started your cycle....you say you have enuff test to last you till whatever time...well let me you, tell the longer you stay on the harder the recovery...you may go as far as never being normal and having to go on HRT for the rest of your life....not being a prik bro just being straight foward and telling you the really real!!!!
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07-27-2006, 04:07 PM #15Associate Member
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Originally Posted by Bigmax
Now, either you can help me or you can get your rocks off my attemting to insult me but nobody is going to get anywhere with an internet fight but carpal tunnel syndromeLast edited by USMCSS; 07-27-2006 at 04:09 PM.
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07-27-2006, 04:18 PM #16
How long is too long?
Originally Posted by USMCSS
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07-27-2006, 04:30 PM #17Associate Member
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I guess my analogy is just another sign of my lack of intelligence, huh?
So since you're gods gift to steroids , you wanna go ahead and list all the supplements/drugs I should have researched before my cycle. Come on...there's Tongkat, Tribulus, the list goes on of stuff I MIGHT use to help during PCT, but are not NECESSARY. I don't understand why I would have needed to know anything about HCG if I never planned on using it nor planned on extending my cycle. But then again, I'm not very intelligent so hold my hand and walk me through this...
I don't post here much but do read quite a bit so just an FYI, I'm pretty straight forward as well. Just do me a favor Bigmax...why don't you let some other self-deemed endocrinologist help me out on this one because you're not doing a good job
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07-27-2006, 04:39 PM #18
Guy i guess you got even more offended than I thought...oh well...you didnt like what you heard and thats too bad...but we are off the subject ..if you want to continue go to the pm bro....Where i will own you
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07-27-2006, 05:06 PM #19Associate Member
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Originally Posted by Bigmax
Now, I'd like to be back on subject and get the advice I was seeking rather than a personality/intelligence observation
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07-27-2006, 04:42 PM #20
hey, i am not here to offer any advice, just to tell you both to play nice...or take it to pm's so we can stay on topic here...
ok...i will offer some advice, if you are still gaining i see no need to stop, but i do like the idea of switching to prop for three more weeks....also i am sure in a week or two the deca will be outta your system...i have little experience with long cycles, as i prefer to run short heavy ones, but my next one is 30 weeks...so i am interested to see how hard it is for you to come back after this....also did you run anything during your cycle like nolva, adex, or letro????
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07-27-2006, 05:09 PM #21Associate Member
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Originally Posted by WEBB
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07-27-2006, 05:07 PM #22
Thanks guys...
hope you get the advice your looking for...that all i care about..
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07-27-2006, 05:23 PM #23Associate Member
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usmcss...bigmax is always thinking he is owning people. he tried "owning" me in a thread which he later said i should take to a pm...he should have taken his own adivce before he went off topic in the thread
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07-27-2006, 05:56 PM #24Associate Member
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Originally Posted by gobig99
I don't want this to get off topic anymore than it already has. I came here to learn, not fight. The octagon is where fighting needs to stay.
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07-27-2006, 11:06 PM #25Associate Member
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Just an FYI for all that followed this thread. Bigmax and I have sorted out our differences in a civil manner like grown men via PM's. He's not that bad of a guy once you get to know him and I do believe he is a wealth of knowledge. All turmoil between us is now squashed and he has my respect as an exprienced AAS user. We just got off on the wrong foot.
NOW, anybody else have some pointers they want to toss my way on the HCG issue? I'd love to hear everyone's experiences and point of views as I need all I can get before I break my original plan of dropping Test E at week 16. My gains are just getting WAY to good lately
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07-27-2006, 11:09 PM #26
Thanks bro...all good,peace!!!
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07-28-2006, 07:12 PM #27Associate Member
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07-28-2006, 09:06 PM #28
Personally I use it just as Hooker(Anthony Roberts)laid out in his PCT plan, and roughly as 189 said. The week after my last inject I begin taking 250iu ed for 3(or 500 IU EOD)weeks, so far has worked like a charm for me. If I was to go 20 weeks or more again I would start using it in the same fashion for 2 weeks every 4-5 weeks.
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07-29-2006, 12:08 AM #29
I'd recommend reading the profile for both the background and a better understanding of its functions.
Anabolic Review Profile: HCG (Human Chorionic Gonadatropin)
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07-29-2006, 04:57 PM #30Associate Member
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