TBOL and HAIR LOSS!

**Johny-too-small** · 08-02-2006, 12:17 PM

I am on day 20 of a 60 mg/ed Tbol cycle.

I am really starting to experience size and strength gains but I have a real issue:

MY HAIR IS FALLING OUT. Every time I scratch, pull, grab, etc. my head, I notice four or more hairs in my hand. Is this from the TBOL or am I being paranoid? I had the understanding that Tbol has a very mild androgenic effect(s).

I AM NOT PRONE to balding. My hair is VERY thick. I am 29 and no receding hair line at all.

Is there anything I can do?

Sorry if I sound like a baby, but I didnt expect this from Tbol.

**vitor** · 08-02-2006, 12:35 PM

People lose between 50-100 hairs daily natrually, sometimes more. Unless you hair is getting thinner or your hairline is creeping back, dont sweat it...

**TheSentinal** · 08-02-2006, 12:41 PM

I disagree with Vitor's comments. Although we are prone to losing hair throughout the day, being able to pull several hairs out is not normal. I had the exact same thing happen. I did not think I was prone to MPB, but now I am fighting the hair loss.

My recommendation:

Dutasteride 30mL 0.5mg/mL - you can get it on this site. Order it now. PM me if you would like more info.

Good luck.

**Johny-too-small** · 08-02-2006, 12:44 PM

My hairline has not changed at all. Its just freaking me out because Ive never seen this before.

Maybe it will come back after the cycle, maybe it wont.

**Seattle Junk** · 08-02-2006, 12:45 PM

Yeah, tbol can cause hairloss but it is unlikely. Like Sensational says with dut or finasteride.

**Johny-too-small** · 08-02-2006, 12:46 PM

IF...i stop my cycle and go into pct, will the hairloss stop too?

**Seattle Junk** · 08-02-2006, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by Johny-too-small

IF...i stop my cycle and go into pct, will the hairloss stop too?

No, not necessarily. In PCT or leading up to PCT you are using HCG , clomid and other test stimulators. Your own test converts into DHT quite readily which will cause hairloss. You got to get on 5-ar inhibitors like dut or fina and stay on them, no excuses.

**Johny-too-small** · 08-02-2006, 01:01 PM

thanks

**Receiver84** · 08-02-2006, 01:45 PM

When I do my hair each morning I always have 4-7 hairs stuck to my fingers after putting the gel in. Been like this for the last 10 years or so and my hair is thick as h3ll and no receeding at all. Everyone is different. Nothing wrong with being cautious but I would say to just relax a bit.

**Duke of Earl** · 08-02-2006, 03:38 PM

well i think tbol can cause an increase in free test due to SHBG interactions, so that could be your prob, in which case dutast / finast will help

**Johny-too-small** · 08-02-2006, 06:49 PM

Thought about things, took a shower, and fugit I dont care. If I go bald, at least I am married.

freedom

**thebrakes** · 08-03-2006, 01:21 AM

tbol can certainly cause hairloss. it made my scalp itch, but i didnt lose any (i am MPB prone) which suggests to me that it's capable.

i say keep a very close eye on it, and if you see anything you dont like, get the hell off tbol. otherwise relax.

**doublefister** · 08-03-2006, 01:23 AM

why are you pulling your hair to begin with?

**Bigun** · 08-03-2006, 02:12 AM

Originally Posted by doublefister

why are you pulling your hair to begin with?

Probably because he is married

**Johny-too-small** · 08-03-2006, 06:58 AM

Originally Posted by Bigun

Probably because he is married

man knows what he is talking about.

**Anadrol50_power** · 08-24-2006, 04:51 PM

Also gonna try and do some Tbol. Also extremly worried about the hairloss sideeffect. On other steroids like TestE and Var my scalp started itching ...is the "itching" a definitive sign of hairloss by itself ..anyone that can shed some more light on the subject?

**Random** · 08-24-2006, 04:56 PM

I always have 4-7 hairs stuck to my fingers after putting the gel in. Been like this for the last 10 years or so and my hair is thick as h3ll

Ive had the same issues, however my hair is fairly thick, and i have been paranoid before, i use Nizoral shampoo every other day and dutasteride even tho im not prone to hairloss...but hey, i figure its best not to worry that much, after all, if we worry more and stress out it will probly cause More hairloss!

**Hellmaskbanned** · 08-24-2006, 05:10 PM

4 hairs, are you serious?

+ you stated your hair is thick, 4 hairs should be nothing. I myself have pulled on my head thinking I was balding.

IMO I think your just being paranoid.Which I bet you believe also.

**thebrakes** · 08-26-2006, 11:54 PM

Originally Posted by Hellmask

4 hairs, are you serious?

+ you stated your hair is thick, 4 hairs should be nothing. I myself have pulled on my head thinking I was balding.

IMO I think your just being paranoid.Which I bet you believe also.

i agree actually. it certainly sounds like paranoia.

i was reading over my chem notes and remembered that the 4CL mod on the A-ring of tbol SHOULD prevent interaction with 5AR in the scalp....but that doesnt mean the steroid itself wont bind to the AR's there, much the same way tren does (and EQ, too - which has no affinity for 5AR but some for 5BR)

other 5a-reduced steroids do it, like winny and primo and 1-T and proviron and anadrol , etc etc...but that's natural as their structure is similar. the non-5AR reduced steroids are the real enigmas, and it looks like tbol fits into this category.

and IME, on-cycle itching generally means follicle irritation by hormones and eventually hairloss will follow. i am having good luck with dutasteride and fluridil (a topical anti-androgen) on my Test/EQ/M-TRN/bold base/superdrol cycle